Last night I wasted Field of Dreams with the kids. Plenty of complaints before the start. One wanted to watch Avengers, another didn’t want to watch a sports movie. The other one was opposed to the entire endeavor.
They came around pretty quick. But here was my big takeaway: I’m on the verge of becoming a naturalized citizen in the commodity world--I couldn’t stop thinking about how all the farmers were appalled and outraged when Kevin Costner dug up his corn to build the baseball field. And then there was the clearly disastrous financial implications, where this decision put his farm on the verge of bankruptcy.
I had questions. 1) how much corn did he dig up? 2) how much revenue did he forego, in absolute terms and relative to the size of the farm? 3) Given a few assumptions, was this really a farm-wrecking decision, or was this Hollywood stuff?
In 1987 many farms in Iowa were between 250-500 acres, and this same data shows a husband/wife team could have eked out a living managing such farm. Let's assume this was a 250 acre farm.
The average value per acre in Iowa was $875 in 1987, around the depth of the US farm crisis. A 250-acre farm could have been had for around $220,000. Lets call it $280k with a modest farm house on the property. Putting say, $60k down on such a property was certainly within reach for a college educated, dual income couple in their mid-30s that has been working and saving for 10-15 years.
The average farm price for corn in 1987 was $1.89/bushel. And one might expect an acre of corn to yield around 120 bushels of corn.
So 250 acres of corn, yielding 120 bushels nets you 30,000 bushels of corn. Lets say Kevin Costner is a particularly crafty basis trader and he gets $2/bushel for his corn. He grosses $60,000. The 1987 census report above suggests such a farm might generate $20-$30k in net income--enough to live on if you’re into the lifestyle--but there were many farms during that time that were losing money. Bankruptcy was certainly on the mind of every US farmer in the mid-late 80s.
But with foul territory and some residual space for bleachers, you’re probably looking at another acre. But no more than 4.5 acres total, even if you add in a few parking spaces.
Let's say Kevin Costner dug up four acres of corn. That’s less than $1000 in foregone revenue in the year he dug it up (it probably had some residual silage value!) and in the new crop year when Shoeless Joe finally showed up.
So our hero gave up $1000 out of $60,000 in revenue, and maybe $30,000 in net income. Let’s add on another $1000 for the infield dirt, the grass he planted, and the backstop fence. Despite the gossiping and murmuring of the other farmers and their wives, he certainly could have billed it as a community service--and heck, even written it off on his taxes--since presumably he didn’t just let the field sit there..he let the local farm-kid teams play on it while he was waiting for whatever was supposed to happen.
An aggressive financial decision, but one easily justified by hearing a voice say, “If you build it, he will come.”
Kevin Costner made one crazy, totally unjustifiable decision: he lit the field!!
This, is what would have bankrupted his farm. This is the decision that would have had his smarmy brother-in-law questioning his sanity. Lighting the field today would easily get you into six digits, and would certainly have been out of reach for a financially strapped family farmer in the midst of an agricultural crisis.
Sure, it made for the coolest scene in the movie.
But completely implausible.
Here’s a few light-hearted takeaways for market analysis:
Question assumptions. We all have a cognitive bias to buy into what we’re being told. It’s called “Truth Default Theory”. It’s what makes movies work….but it often turns into a trap in markets.
Sometimes the trade is not where you think. Everyone jumped on Kevin Costner for digging up his corn--but it was the lights that were financially reckless.
Everyone loves a story. Many trades are long on “story” because stories sell. You’re not going to get your boss to buy into upsizing your trade because of your spreadsheet. You need a story.
But….every story needs data. Stories without data are just that, Hollywood stories. A good story combined with solid data can go a long way.
But most important:
Be open to changing your mind. I didn’t mention this above, but the key point of the movie is when the fussy pants brother-in-law has his epiphany. This was a man that was deep into his own trade to buy Kevin’s farm. But he changed his mind. That this was done only with divine intervention is irrelevant! Too often we get wedded to ideas and refuse to accept the metal cost of accepting that we were wrong and changing course.
Love your ideas, but don’t be afraid to set them free.
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Replyits monday arvo here...amps is sliding down the tree of horror branches...
amps needs to set the marketplace straight around here as he sick of blocking out the subliminal messages that he still till this day sees swaying back and forth upon the podium...let's help out the easts/souths sydney ((mob)) get over their weekend.
ffs...i did not take your jacket! ( get a life...take someone's else charlie)
ffs...stop bringing archer off the bench ( "BIASED"...and still a good excuse 20 years later!!!)
ffs...you pal and matey and friends...bad fuckin luck!...you guys are jonahs...i don't care what you do...just get a life without me in it.
Hi Shawn, I'm a bit confused as to the point you are trying to make. Are you sugg8ing that one of best years for macro traders is coming to abrupt end? Are you suggesting the boat is lopsided? Are you suggesting that volatility is making a comeback(traders paradise)? Are you suggesting profit talking will be early this year? Or is it a soul cleansing exercise that has to be done to release the beast.
ReplySomehow I think it's a bit of all them.
Replyits friday night here...amps is settling in with his favorite omen for this weekends adventures...
ffs...why don't they play this after the last race
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ReplyOooohhhyeaaahhhhhh.....
"rock it in the daytime"".....
Amps shut the fuck up you crack head!
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Replyanonymous...i've had it with you civilians out there...
your trolling of traders here is not constructive.
i love how the world sees other lone punters out there is the wilderness...the experts, the behavioral psychologists, and best of all the elites and the gongsters.
if you leave someone isolated long enough and left alone to his own free will within his own mind...you get someone that just cannot be anything but honest with himself...he learns his limitations, his strengths, his flaws...you name it. its no jail cell you have put me in...quite the contrary...its a lab!
i won't change ....forget it guys!
Replyits monday morning here...amps is stuck in the bondi swiss grand.
amps is suffering from cognitive dissonance as walks through the lobby of the swiss grand as he is in two minds of whether to hit the trading desk in time for the tokyo open...or settle in at the swissy and play with the field...
the only way you can get amps out of the swissy presidential on a monday morning is on punting matters only...especially monday morning...must admit though...there was always a good optic at the swissy...aahh...those were the days...mr.nobody just enjoying the scenery.
i'd give an left arm and right leg to go back into that time...just a nobody...
anyway...i was thinking...since the swissy is open all day an night...you'd think it be too much to ring up catherine mcneil and lyndia collins as see if they'll come over?
lets face it...i need to go back in time and feel once again how stress free it was to be around girls that like to play...where you can be yourself and no one cares who you are...ahhh...those were the days...
Replyits saturday arvo here....the races are on , and people are at the movies...
not amps...his retired...
give it up johnny boy...blame it no one...you didn't take a leap of faith when it was expected from you...
you will never get a skerrett of alpha from me...you shit is still laying the street ((MF!))
Replyjust let you know ((MF!)) i walked out of jail....didn't get wheeled out...take your best shot...see how that leap of faith works out for ya!
Replyyeah...its you and me C##t no one else...don't go throwing your Bullshit around town on other small teams etc etc...its between you and me...and you know it!
Replyjohnny boy...the only place you should've threw me out of was the collins pimp house!
Replyand you nat...i wouldn't take a turd in one of your houses.
Replya fucking nobody...lol
Replyann there's sydney's most lovable larrikin ...choas singo...working all the angles...from protector...to mini-gangster...whatever way he can create enough chaos so that he can water it all down to a deal ...fuck off singo ...your the biggest cunt all...
Replyi know exactly who you are singo...i know everything...and you haven't a clue...just winging it!
"cunty singo"...when his left out.
Replyguess what cunty singo...i've been left out the last 17 years...
put a fork in that!
lol...a fuckin nobody.
Been following this space since 2009…
ReplyI have learned an enormous amount by being a retail fly on the wall of the MM site, and I have throughly enjoyed (and benefited in education and broader thinking) from the banter of those good humored souls far smarter than I am.
Trolls are trolls and can always be ignored in favor of smart posts, and in any event, they come and go.
What doesn't come and go, is you, Amps:
I do not know what your relationship is to the blog or its founders, that have tolerated your incessant nonsense, but there must be something there, because 98% of what you have to say is utter nonsense….
I KNOW that you are capable of posting lucid, relevant and interesting things (I have read them), it's just that you don't.
Even now, when this blog is in a coma, and one of the admins puts up an excellent piece of thinking that I want to read, all I see in the comments that used to be inhabited by LB, Checkmate, Nico, Skr, Nemo, Polemic, and all else whose handles currently except me, is you Amps, doing whatever it is you feel you need to do in public.
I am sure that you are smart and capable, and must've been a buddy to someone here at some time, and I wish you well, because you are not a troll, but you do seem to be not well, and I urge you, as an anonymous poster of good intentions, to seek help, and leave this sad blog alone.
The people of London,Barcelona,Hong Kong(amongst others)do not seem to buying the "we know best" mantra that has served well in history.
ReplyWhy is population so agitated and is it going to spread? Tick tock,it is hard to appease when you don't know why the masses are angry. Tick Tock...
Amps, shut the fuck up you crackhead!
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Reply"What doesn't come and go, is you, Amps:"
yeah...i know...i'm a masochistic
Replyits monday morning here...amps is up early...
amps is perusing the papers looking of office space in melbourne...
not hollywood, not uk, not nyc, not europe, not sydney, and no bluebloods!
it going to be a beautiful sportsbook...i've always had luck in victoria..expect once!
can't wait to be in a scrum of punters again....i missed you guys.
Replyits monday arvo here...amps is going through the books...
no deals...no amount money...no nothing...?
too late...don't care if the fiddler hands over 10Billion...
Reply...otherwise ...just do me in...
because im not getting out of bed.
Replywhere going to need all the luck we can get....
we don't need those bastards around us!
Replythose toffs will never stop using nobody's to get at us....
no nothing....protect the sportsbook at all costs!
Replymillward's , saintly's and might and power's, they all come go...
but not the sportsbook...
are we clear
Replylol...about nat and packer, trumpy, murdoch and wall street and hollywood..and fashion...and sydney gongsters...and on and on and on...
i can't wait till uni is over next year at june... and i'm back on the dole again...or working in a factory or just working for dole..
no one will know what im doing...no amount of money can replace that peace of mind...
what a day...hey!
Replythere's no luck to be had with chelsea...
just putting it out there....
Amps, how do you get all the fun?
ReplyDid you know that 8 out of ten cats prefer fake tan-the rest would rather be found dead in a ditch!
Why did the chicken cross the road?
So it could be found dead in a ditch!
Believe what you are told!
Replyskr...
"Why did the chicken cross the road?"
why did the chicken go to nyc and jump on the circus carousal?
so it could come back to australia and forever be on a tear!
Replylisten guys...
my uni course finishes soon...i've got shit to do...
i don't need to spell it out for ya anymore do i?....haters are gonna hate...thats the web!
time to be someone else for change....this tiresome....
Replyamps last quote...and we will copy George Soros....
'I'm proud of my enemies'
I'll echo Anon's comment above. I've been following some of these folks since back in the Ritholtz days -- so that is 2007/8 I think.
ReplyI'm a Johnny Retail guy, but the commentary has often been very instructive. I should have listened to LB when he called the bottom at 666....
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Replyher name was mcneil...
she was the real deal...
she'd come around to kneel...
if only packer was in on the steal...
she had a great partner...
though few had been aware of this persons persona...
they'd twinned it out for the greater good of president jimmy carter...
and all the guys in the situation room were all in laughter!
Reply...when lachlan was asked if he'd give a hand...
the media guys were all filled of amazement...
as no one could remember the last time that lachlan wasn't fed bottle and righthand...
but the media acolytes decided that packer and lachlan were the team to put amps in enslavement...
after the bondi crew failed in their attempted coup...
they decided it was time to produce their hollywood underlings...
in the hope that amps would regain his forgotten memory of testosterone ecstasy that eventually drives him to peru...
however they had forgotten that amps is not attracted to rusty's inner rings...
Replyits sunday arvo here...amps is doing the form...
amps has decided his not going to south america as all roads lead to hollywood....
wants none of it...and if tom , dick and harry can walk away from hollywood...
why should amps have to go to hollywood?
why should he...amps doesn't want money...amps is not going to america or hollywood, period.
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Replywhy are you so special lachlan?...because i wouldn't let the other FAG near it!
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Replymurdoch and packer families...
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amps is going to south east asia for awhile due to hollywood and uk being a distraction...see what we can do with amps brain as we finally leave him alone on his beach to model the models she knows best...
Amps the believer!
ReplyHey Checkmate,how's them 3100+ options cooking for you (Re:Jan 14)? "Over ambitious" they shouted.;)
Anyhoo, are you guys coming for a kick about?
Yo, it’s been a minute since I rolled through. This blog is bananas nowadays huh?
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Reply"Amps the believer!"...
yep...melania said amps is a believer...in fact, melania said amps is a beautiful believer...so much so...congress has decided to fund the "amps believer gofund"...its going to be a great investment for america and the democrats.
mate...i am not going to america or the uk...never. i don't won't any responsibilities within those two countries borders ever. the ride is over...the bullshit has come to a close. i couldn't imagined ever attending any celeb or investor party in either country...good grief...mud sticks ...and i will wear mine with pride for the rest of my life...but i'm not going to serve the elites , billionaires or the bluebloods...not ever. i'm taking my bat and ball home and i'm done...i'm a nobody.
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Replylisten here you trolls here around macro mans blog.
u wanna trigger a group of people?
well...send your donation to " amps believer gofund " and send him to retirement to an undisclosed beach in south east asia/america ....and thereby DE-PLATFORM the souths/eastern suburbs mob for finally all!
amps dream ...
who can't wait to de-platform the slime?
First time/ Long time.
ReplyFor the love of God can we figure out how to block AMPS? Reckon I speak for anyone left.
ReplyBCP...
i appreciate the feedback...and the platform you guys have given me here over the years. but i agree with you. amps is getting on these days from his isolation from ...ummm...lets see over the last 17 years...souths/eastern suburbs mob, enslavement within political circles, forced upon marriage (unwanted kids), an enabler of the plague, a kelloggs packet sydney gongster badge wearing clubber, the certainty of divorce rape, the #metoo movement, the trumpian era, the social justice warriors, the democratic party slaughter of european culture ( every country deserves the culture they embrace just as every country deserves to have their own culture), and probably the owner of too much money to give a toss where the sp500 is going to be next month.
but in all that...im taking applications for data scientists with betting backgrounds for positions for my sports hedgefund. you will have to be able to do a rotating 6 week on 2 week off at my office/beach resort style headquarters on an undisclosed south east asia/ america beach.
so old boy...what was all that last 17 years about? i missed it all!
Amps, shut the fuck up you crackhead!
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Leftback's Forecasts Posted 27 December 2018:
1) A major intermediate market low has been made, and will not be revisited until at least Q3/4 2019.
2) That shorting is going to be a painful experience for a while - but don't let that stop you.
3) Selling vol is likely to be profitable for a while, certainly until VIX is no longer in steep backwardation.
4) Recession will be averted, the yield curve has already re-steepened, and is no longer inverted, meaning
5) NO rate hikes in 2019; QT autopilot switched off, LOL. A more dovish Powell is already being priced in.
6) Emerging markets will pick up steam soon as China stimulus measures are rolled out.
7) Rates may drift higher as equities recover and spreads tighten, but US fixed income volatility will be low in 2019.
8) Oil is also in the process of bottoming as OPEC tweaks production targets.
9) Punters will complain about algo-driven volatility, and many will buy long vol vehicles.
10) Algo-driven volatility will decline in 2019. Punters will lose money in long vol vehicles.
cbus20122 Forecasts Posted 27 December 2018:
Reply1. Strong dollar continues higher counter to consensus views that the dollar weakens.
2. US economy holds in there for a little while, but slows noticeably as the rest of the world slows even more. US stocks continue to drop, with bigger growth names getting hurt the most at first. This will chop around, but the broad trend is downward.
3. Chinese stimulus rolls out, but isn't enough to prevent the global slowdowns.
4. US equities see a rally, but continue to make lower lows until autumn when things start to really break down.
5. Global real estate bubbles start to pop (home prices have already been faltering through 2018). Notably in Australia, Canada, Scandinavia, New Zealand, Hong Kong etc.
6. Liquidity continues to sputter, and will reach a systemic point where it dries up, causing huge issues as major dollar lenders pull away from the dollar short trade.
7. Europe enters a recession with riots and animosity becoming more and more prevalent.
8. Gold, copper, and commodities traded in USD eventually break down as the dollar rockets higher amidst emerging market debts being due and European weakness causing a surge in dollar value.
9. Long term US Treasury bonds perform relatively well if you purchased them before the fed cuts rates, but will quickly be sold off after the rate cut. They do not perform as well as they did in 2008 or 2001.
10. People will look back on everything that happened and be dumbfounded that we could see a major worldwide slowdown (or recession in some cases) without a 10/2 inversion. They may eventually realize the structural reasons why the 10 year yield isn't getting the same bid that 5 year treasuries have, but it will only be way after the fact.
Moniker: Forecasts Posted 27 December 2018:
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Replyyeah...your right, anonymous. we do miss macro mans motley team of prognosticators. but who needs a bloomberg terminal when you still have the necessary energy it takes to find winners alone. of course we know the like of LB & co are still out there doing their best , as we are. all in good time.
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ReplyAmps, shut the fuck up you crackhead! ((cunt))...listen anonymous.
its monday arvo here...and the boys cannot believe amps is a stayer...
amps has had a few too many over the weekend...but i tell you all my little secret.
my friend Mathew once said to me...as we sat in the middle of royal randwick shopping mall with everyone walking past watching as the slime had aaaaaallllllll of sydney on my ass...
"Scott, you don't have to give them anything...its yours"
over all the previous years to this point...who'd you'd think i listen too...
KP?, souths/eastern suburbs gongsters? or the jacks? or my friend Matthew.
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Replywell traders , merry christmas and happy new year...thx to some of you for listening to amps jibberish throughout the year.
there will be no more coverage next year as we will finish it before the end of year festivities.
what has the world really witness over the last 20 years?
...hate
it's that simple...they all hate me because i don't relate to them...and i have ability...well i have some left.
i don't care for the eastern suburbs hierarchy within the celebrity gangster set...don't fool yourselves people...the celebrity gangster set is in every major capital city...
i don't relate to hierarchical social settings...i just don't have those social cues among many others.
and getting in bed within the american and england social setting will go down as one of my biggest mistakes in life.
i intend to run my own race from here...i will not ever be working for anyone business elite in america or england or anyone for that matter... its my life and i have decided to have a go at trading sports and financial markets without being owned by anyone. i will decide who i marry or have children with if that opportunity comes to bear.
thanks again for listening and i'll see you punters around.
Merry Christmas Y'all
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Every macro man has now gone bust shorting equities, or turned into a raving lunatic like amps. Only the guys buying stocks over the past few years have made any money. Delete this joke of a blog already.
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Replyits a funny thing...anonymous.
i was going to ask macro man if he'd let me rebirth this blog later this year after i finish my course. i was going to rename it "macro man's alpha vs central banker's state of psychological plausibility" ...it would be a minimum one post a week with amps weekly thoughts of technical , macro and behavioral opinions plus plays in the spoos and major currencies and oil. it would be mainly behavioral underpinnings that i learn as i go along that can be replicated within the marketplace that i think i have an edge in the intermediate term.
of course i would respect that i would leave a tip jar on the blog page...greater the tip...more time for research and honey's in south east asia.
Replylisten followers...amps is no lunatic. he just needs to come back here sometimes to get ahead of the bullshit narrative the bullshitters are pushing.
amps is not moving to mexico to start a hedgefund. amps is moving to south east asia...that's where the honey's are legal. amps has lots of catching up to do and he doesn't care for the forbes 500 narrative anymore...the past is the past. period. amps trades his own style and his own account.
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i used to just walk out the gate if i thought the trainer was a fuck up...my lord...what i would do to go back in time and stay put...you were right Bart, fuck ups.
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i don't claim to be a saint, but i can tell you every reason why i left a racing stable and every time it was to keep my sanity...but lets'get back to graham.
you may think i have a mouth on me...but our lovely graham has a "sinister" mouth on him , especially towards the "help". he gave me a taste of it one day from across the front lawn as we were both putting on bridles on our horses...it all came from about to do nothing, but i gave him educated reply...he said " how long did it take for you to come up with that" my reply..." well...lets you and i take it to the lawn and i show you how long it took me" he didn't say a word to me for the rest of the day until he knew i was inside a room and he quickly poked his head inside the door and said " you can leave at the end of the week" ..
your welcome too...
Replyi quite like this reminiscing about racing , and since i'm retired from racing and every one seems to have an opinion about me to share than let me share mine.
Pat Murray: Ancient ...one word is suffice. had a lovely wife.
neville voigt: one of the biggest crimes on a race track was nifty moving from the saddle to the trainers pen. he never really wanted to train...but when focused was on par with any trainer on setting a horse for a particular race...but never take a tip from him...nifty nev still carried the "jockey's tipping bible" with him across into the trainers ranks.
Bill Mitchell: Billy was a good guy. His the only trainer I never saw lose the plot about anything until the stable dog got run over by the horse float ( in half ) and spent over 10K (over 25 years ago!)in vet bills to keep it alive. He did lose the plot a little when I think what could've been his best horse got run into by a car. But he show me one day ( amusingly ) the cranbrook boy in him. Bill had just got his big step up in the trainers world when the australian jockey club allowed him his own stable complex on high street. As us staff were living in paid accommodation off track , Billy was moving the stable lads into the stable complex. So with that as you know the house Billy was renting was vacated , but not before the landlord did his inspection. Couple days after the house inspection one of the lads came to my room as i had already moved into the new stable complex...he said to me that Bill was down stairs in his new office and that the landlord was disputing the bond with Billy due to the lights being vandalized in the house, the lad said he told Bill the lights were like that before they moved in, but for clarification, Billy want to asked me if that was the case and the lad wanted me to back up his side of story. seriously though, Billy knew it was all bullshit because he knew i didn't move into the house until the very end of the occupied term when i first joined him. So we both walked into Billy's office and fronted him like a headmaster...it was surreal...he asked me directly if the lights were already vandalized ...i backed up their bullshit story...he knew it. Anyway with that Billy put all of lads that previously lived in the house all up squeezed up stairs with no kitchen. And a recent Somalian immigrate with no previous racehorse experience , straight off the boat and street as the afternoon he come to our gate looking for work we put him on the stable pony bareback and sent him going around the lawn like a camel jockey into the down stairs self utility "king size suite". Every morning i saw Billy walk in that front gate i saw that sweet victory all over Billy face. He begged me not to go to Japan. I worked for him again when I got back and i got my favorite horse straight back..but Billy wasn't the same due to me previously leaving. fair enough too.
we'll leave it there...it gets too deep from there.
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LB has been snoozing through 2019 but always with half an eye on the liquidity situation. The Confounded Interest blog has done a good job of keeping one eye on the ball at all times, w.r.t the most important market variable, i.e, the Fed balance sheet.
I will say, just for now, that we are nearing Peak Coronavirus fear, but we are not there yet. With Ebola there was a moment when TLT went parabolic and that was a good fade. We are not yet at that moment but it is coming. We can expect one massive plunge in yields, crude oil and basic materials, semiconductor stocks, probably at the moment the US has its first super-spreader event. Not there yet, but at some point there will be a buying opportunity in energy, China and a selling opportunity in Treasuries. For now, sit tight and enjoy the Death of Oil headlines etc..
Btw, I do not wish to minimize concern about nCoV, SARS2 etc., as an extremely serious global event. It will remain a problem throughout 2020 and 2021. We should all be concerned about it, especially in the ensuing fall and Winter flu season. For now, we are watching the first wave of market panic, and this will run its course in the next few weeks. It is likely there will be multiple waves of virus and market panic, but we may well get a break from both during the summer months,
Thanks so much, LB ... sage advice.
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Today looks like stage 1 of the coronavirus panic plunge, might be a good day to nibble on things that have already been beaten to death, like China, autos and energy, for example. I don’t think today is Peak Panic but we may be getting closer to that point.
ReplyMight be a tough day for some of our friends with their portfolio of TSLA options. Ugly day for $SOX. As soon as Korea outbreak emerged, the semis have been taken behind the woodshed.
Interesting to see F and RNO trade like the world is ending while TSLA is just below its peak. Sometimes extreme divergences like that can be quite elastic for a while and then snap back sharply.
If you think OPEC is going to stand around and watch crude go to $30, you might want to take a cruise on the Diamond Princess. Opec cuts are coming, so the drillers and big oils are probably worth a look this week.
Hoping for a new post soon to bring a bit of structure to the blog, LOL.
For the time being I will return you to your regularly scheduled programming of Mumbai escort agencies, bold Bangalore beauties and Nigerian crypto startups...
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ReplyVIX bubbling up between 25 and 30. Another puke in the morning, VIX to 30 and maybe we will have seen the worst of this for now.
ReplyNote that FXI and EEM are trading decently, perhaps a sign that traders perceive the worst to be over in China. TLT is losing monentum.
Energy is becoming extremely oversold. Unless one is a disciple of Greta, the dividend yields of BP, OXY, SNP, PTR look interesting, the XLE itself also yields higher than the TLT, or indeed TSLA. Sooner or later we will see a rotation out of fear and magical thinking, and into value.
Or not, maybe the momo bubble may have one more leg up, assuming no superspreader event in the US for a while. I will tell you that the news flow isn’t going to improve, but markets can rally even when news flow is static, just on vol selling and short covering.
Back to those Indian escorts, now.
VIX already hit 30, the RSI of VIX is 80. Fear is peaking. There is absolutely still room for another puke tomorrow, but most of the weak hands are already out.
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Oddly enough the unicorn sector has outperformed the spoos and "real economy" things like materials and energy have fared the worst, so that probably tells you that the unicorn bubble isn't quite over, and that BuyStocks will JBTFD once more. More interestingly, FXI and EEM have handily outperformed Spoos and Qs today.
XLE is pretty f*cking oversold here, even as OPEC is making noises about not sitting on their hands, even as Death of Oil headlines start to appear and Cramericans are informed that Big Oil will go the way of Big Tobacco.
You know what we think about that kind of stuff, in terms of investment opportunity, and as I mentioned to MM the other day, Greta is late arriving by solar powered yacht and so is the delivery of my electric hover vehicle so I am off to buy some gas for the (ancient yet reliable) manual petrol vehicle. Crude is sitting on support here, and OPEC know that, of course.
The final tell of the day: gold is already weak, the Treasury auctions weren't the best, shorties beware, there might be an orgy of vol selling overnight, with the usual results in terms of cold steel in the morning.
Not underestimating the coronavirus problem in any way, but the bad news is going to come in waves, not all at once. King Don may try to emulate Canute, sitting by the ocean commanding the virus to go back. I am not being political, it is what it is.
I will close by saying that the bungling by governments has been astonishing, and one can expect that trend to continue worldwide, as the Tyranny of the Incompetent is revealed in all of its glory.
To Quote a line from The Fall and Rise of Reginald Perrin "I didn't get where I am today without knowing God moves in mysterious ways."
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Thank you LB. Very glad to hear from you again.
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ReplyEarly days but vol sellers seem to be appearing. The strength or otherwise of the snapback rally will be revealing. Do not underestimate the ability of the market to achieve even higher levels of irrational exuberance. After all, unicorns are immune to viruses. Aren’t they?
Sometimes these rallies are punctuated by multiple interventions by governments, central banks, OPEC, etc. just sayin’... shorties need to watch their rear when that sort of thing begins.
That’s it from me for a few days. Best to all.
@LB: Given that Europe (minus parts of Italy) hasn't even gotten to the stage where supermarkets are getting cleared out and employees are being told to stay home, don't you think even if there is a rally over the next week or two, it won't reach the previous peak nor last too long (i.e., dead cat bounce)? Not to mention that the virus has yet to really hit US soil.
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All virus, all the time. We began discussing this outbreak in mid-January in our local environment and nobody wanted to listen. It is very difficult for most humans to think about things that they can’t see or touch.
ReplyThose of you who read the Lancet or blogs like ZH etc will be aware that the potential for a global pandemic has been apparent from the beginning. Anyway, the MSM has joined the party, late as always. I think to suggest that the virus has yet to hit US soil is hopeful in the extreme. It is here, has been for weeks. MSM lack the capacity for abstract thought, but even they can read the writing on the wall.
Another wave of panic today, as markets price in the inevitability of outbreaks everywhere, including the US. A second VIX spike above 30 is unusual and gives you a sense of how quickly fear has taken over as the dominant market emotion. There is also the suggestion that it is Bernie and not the virus that has caused everyone to run around with their pants on their heads. I never watch the TV with the sound on but today I listened a little to get a measure of the irrationality now pervading the media. Note that the mood is the exact opposite from the complacency that emanated from the same people a week ago. So, ignoring the spooz noise for the time being, where are we?
Sentiment. Fear dominates, panic is taking hold. The question is, what could happen in the next week or two to depress sentiment further? If we get a drip drip drip of news of the virus in other countries and isolated US cases then you would think that vol selling will get rolling. If we somehow manage to stumble and bumble through March without a major outbreak in a US city we will see the Mother of all Relief Rallies. That will not be the end of the virus story, as we will face a second wave of outbreaks later on, but that is a topic for another day.
Bonds. Obviously, there can be more of this, but at some point one begins to question whether a 1.75% long bond makes any sense at all unless you are German and fleeing negative yields. Not ready to go there yet but we would have to say that TLT has been going parabolic and is approaching extreme overbought conditions.
The RSI on the XLE is around 17, so unless Greta wins the next US election you would think there is some value there. The oil price weakness is showing up in US high yield as well. We have seen a few of these oil dumps and they all end with OPEC production cuts.
We haven’t touched the spooz, but we do think emerging markets are outperforming, and we are adding a bit there. China sentiment is improving and FXI will likely lead the bounce.
My guess is that any bounce in Spooz is indeed of the Dead Cat variety but even those can be sizable and vicious in speed. Watch out for the 3% up days, as most of us will recall they are a feature of Bear Market rallies, and fairly diagnostic as they represent massive covering of shorts under conditions where a large scale shift has taken place from dip buying to rip selling. If we see a more measured recovery from the lows, whenever that may be, it is more likely that a bull market type dynamic will resume.
Watch out for the coordinated central bank and OPEC policy announcements, next week or even over the weekend.
Apologies if this seems excessively calm or rational. Six weeks ago I was accused of hysteria. Can’t win.
Came here HOPING to See You. Thanks LB.
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1) Slow down in China will slow down resource buying
2) The Pipeline issues - The Natives Protests Shut down major Rail lines last week. They are now moving
3) The Virus fears. Vancouver, TO have reported cases. India(China's neighbor is most likely hiding) - Many Snow birds from Asia coming back in April could bring back infection.
4) Repatriating Passengers from that Cruise Ship and Chinese Canadians from Wuhan was a big challenge. They are isolated at Military bases for couple of weeks.
I hope Canadian Liberal Govt survives the Challenges.
WHO - World Health Org is incompetent, I bet the Doc is a political appointee - Chicken without a head
Mish is saner compare to ZH
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River, I think that being the epicenter of the North American SERs out break, Health Canada has learned a ton. Should be able to handle things. Health Ontario has tested more people then have been tested in the entire continental US. 500+ to 300+ I believe was the last. Count.
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Well, that was interesting.... the coronavirus news rumbles on, and we have thoughts about that, but first of all, this is not the time, and second, what people think about the news isn’t going to make any one any money. So for the time being, let’s ignore all of that and focus on the behavior of markets and the punters who love them. Price action and sentiment review...
ReplyFirst off, sentiment measures. VIX almost 50. CNN fear and greed I think was at 8 at one point, which is extreme fear. Make that EXTREME FEAR for the folks at home watching TV. Headless chickens were in full view this week, and people on TV who clearly had put their pants on their heads. Generally speaking you would be thinking about buying that, if you are Uncle Warren, be greedy when others are fearful etc.. as this was the deepest fear sentiment since the recent Leftback Lows of December 2018. Not quite the same level of conviction here as yet, though. We haven’t touched the spooz, mindful here of MM’s advice regarding a Falling Knife, that the best way to catch one is to wait until it hits the floor and then walk over and pick it up.
This morning was a bit TEOTWAWKI* with a huge gap down at the open followed by a 10am low, which is also usually a buy signal. We haven’t used this for a while but we would suggest that it is time for TWINE trades, because after all Josephine Sixpack has to get the kids from school and fill up the tank of the SUV. The usual TWINE** trade, for novice readers, is long energy, short Treasuries.
[*The End Of The World As We Know It. ** The World Is Not Ending]
With that in mind, we note that the XLE finished the day green and there was some very funky screaming short covering action in the drillers today, some of which rocketed 20% off the morning lows. Never a dull moment with these names, like DO, RIG and VAL. This was not unexpected as the XLE was at one point sporting a super oversold label with RSI of 17, and trading around 12 year (GFC) price lows. Considering the credit spigot is open, that seems remarkable, and led to us removing the Kevlar Gloves* in the middle of the week to try to catch a few high velocity projectiles.
[* MM approved wear for Falling Knife Catching, not approved for BSL-3 or 4 laboratory work]
To quote Uncle Warren again, Price is what you pay, and Value is what you get. Right now, the energy sector is value and the price is lower than it was last week. Those drillers have an uncanny habit of sensing upcoming OPEC statements. I wonder if Uncle Warren was loading up on his favorites like COP and so on? He has uncanny instincts about these things also, and looking at the yields in BP, RDS, OXY, SLB, COP and many more, you might be tempted to join him in being greedy when others are fearful. Certainly the mood has changed from mid Feb when the spectacle of punters buying TSLA and SPCE calls on margin was truly terrifying.
We continue to like the EEM, which traded fairly constructively from Wednesday onwards. This presumably reflects the fact that the Death of China, like that of Mark Twain, has been greatly exaggerated.
So what did we do today? Not a lot, we were already in energy up to our neck, nibbled on EEM, and Just for Old Times sake, put on a TWINE trade into the close by fading the spike in TLT, nothing big just a few March and April TLT puts. In case the world doesn’t end after all....
Hope old BuyStocks is doing OK, one half wonders if the expression of even the slightest constructive sentiment might bring out abusive comments from someone called SellStocks...
Selling of things like NLY today may have been forced liquidation, even the preferreds dipped below 25, that may represent selling anything that can be sold, or may just be rotation out of perceived safer havens. Anyway, we ignored it all, as one should.
Now, what about the coronavirus news? Well, that’s another story. One of the many reasons the markets sold off so hard and fast this week is that they were overbought and everyone was long, but another important factor was the spectacle of various governments and organizations revealing themselves to be grossly incompetent, especially the Abe government (Join us on cruise of Yokohama harbor!), the WHO (this is NOT a pandemic, or a Dead Parrot), and the CDC (masks? test kits? who knew?). Honorable mention goes to the Iranian officials who were dying at the podium. Even low budget villains like Dr Evil and Goldmember would surely have worn a mask before infecting half of Tehran...
ReplyThe best guess at the moment is that several countries stumble into the summer and avoid major epidemics, while others get hammered, but a second wave of infections is almost an invariant feature of pandemics, so the real challenge may come next winter. One or two countries will come out of this looking good, with leaders who make timely decisions and wise informed choices that save lives, like the Swiss, for example, closing public gatherings for a while. By using a bit of imagination and getting ahead of things, some countries will build confidence. Those who choose to react only when confronted with a catastrophe will be late, time and time again, and it will cost lives. Let us all hope for good decisions, and perhaps some mutations leading toward less virulence.
Only one thing is certain for now, the world is not going to end before Monday morning, and I am fairly sure that we will be reminded of that by some of our world leaders over the weekend. Pray for them because most of them are clueless tools. Stay safe out there.
@JohnL and LB thanks for the replies. Stay safe buddies
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Not only has the world not ended yet, but i believe we may at long last have a PPT sighting, in fact we seem to have a Sunday night special, this after the BoJ promised to, “do whatever it takes” in order to guarantee stability. I suspect this has to do with the +2¥ day we had on Friday and the prospect of imminent disorderly carry trade unwind. Another couple of those and we would be in the Crash zone.
ReplyWho knows what will happen by the morning, but you can’t say we didn’t warn you about an intervention. Goldman is especially fond of saying things to get theIr clients and other unwary punters (aka “muppets”) offside in thinly traded illiquid markets, before unleashing the Dogs of War. Those wascally wascals waited until a lot of panicked punters had piled in short again tonight before they activated the ramp.
Mr Shorty, beware the Cold Steel in the morning!
Thank you for the posts LB.
ReplyI, too, am waiting for a Cold Steel rally but this does not seems like it. There's a good dispersion of reds along with the greens in this SPX bounce from 2940 to 3020.
NIH's Fauci said, "WE'RE DEALING WITH CLEARLY AN EMERGING INFECTIOUS DISEASE T HAT HAS “NOW REACHED OUTBREAK PROPORTIONS AND LIKELY PANDEMIC PROPORTIONS.” Now how much of the Corona's impact is baked in already now?
What will the UST yield curve look like if Bernie comes out as victor of Super Tuesday? Would definitely appreciate it if the adults in the room could offer their thoughts(LB, Nico, John, skr, cbus, eddie, moniker, even amps!).
Similar to LB's thinking, may be good to add some large caps, energy, prefs, and utilities (F, BUD, AMLP, XLU, PFF.
https://yragharris.com/2020/03/01/tumult/
ReplyHour-long interview with Bianco, Boockvar, Rosenberg, and Harris. They are far from sanguine! Cash is King. Look at long-bond yields in Italy, Spain, and Portugal ... amazing?
Don’t bend over in front of the steamroller, this may be a bear market rally but they are famously vicious, and the initial bungee bounce often reaches close to where Mr Market jumped off the cliff. Just sit back and enjoy the commotion.
ReplyAt no time have I said that the nCoV wasn’t very serious, and the super Tuesday discussions will be interesting but for now focus on that fire hose of liquidity that is being pointed at you... they don’t do these things for fun, they do it to eviscerate Mr Shorty, so mind how you go.
I do think today’s action I mean a 4% up day, seriously, that was Cold Steel and we will accept a few nods of approval, upvotesp from the Bangalore escort agencies perhaps, for making that call on Friday.
Only good thing about worsening virus dynamics is that it forces the clowns who run things to do something and bring in people with skills and knowledge. This is where we are at the moment.
A few random thoughts way less articulate than what LB will provide soon…
ReplyCorona is still spreading fast, especially outside China. Looks like it is contained in China but then we know what to think about Chinese statistics. Even when all factories are up and running again (80% are as of this morning) and everyone is back to work over there (58% of all workers are right now) it will take a couple of months until the supply chains are re-established. A container ship needs between 20 and 30 days to travel from China to Europe, so expect some rumblings over hte next months. Just in time production and stuff… nevertheless, the world will not end™.
However, this is rather deflationary than inflationary imo. People travel less, buy less stuff, new iPhones moulder in the shelves, you get the idea. For the time being I am happy with my long bond position but once the MMT train gets rolling (and to me it is rather a question of when, not if) I will grab my physical gold and run for the hills like these gentlemen:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86URGgqONvA
Energy looks interesting and I will try to do some bottom fishing just in case. BTU might be interesting for those who think that ESG is just another fad of central bankers looking for an occupation. After all, if you can’t get inflation up to where you want it why not switch gears and try something different where you have no track record of near constant failure? Probably not a buy yet, but things change fast these days.
Besides that I lean back and watch the rally… *nodding approval to LB*
Well that was a quick take-back of yesterday's rally. Sell the news with a face-ripper?
ReplyDoes anyone know the real number of deaths from seasonal flue vs Corona virus? How many people died today from that Tornado in Nashville - 22 vs Corona Virus - 9 . The Corano virus deaths were in Nursing Home - elderly? I am not saying people shouldn't be vigilant
ReplyNext door neighbor to China - India hasn't disclosed any Coronavirus deaths. Just a few cases. Why so - May be they are hiding the numbers - or they have immunity due to unsanitary conditions or most live in open homes OR the Weather is getting hotter - Flue virus are killed in hot weather. but we don't know about this one -
Seasonal flu:
Reply"The worst episode in the past decade, according to data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), was the 2017-2018 season, with an estimated 45 million cases, and 61,000 fatalities. During the 2019-2020 season, through February, the CDC estimates that there have been about 32 million cases of the seasonal flu in the U.S., though that figure will rise somewhat further in the coming months."
This translates into a mortality rate of 0.136% for 2017/2018.
Source: https://www.hussmanfunds.com/comment/observations/obs200301/
JHU CSSE posts daily corona virus data on GitHub:
https://github.com/CSSEGISandData/COVID-19
The WHO estimated a higher mortality lately, namely 3.4% instead of the previous c. 2%.
Biden lifting Stocks MORE than the FED could have done - Bernie scared the hell out of billionaires more than the Coronavirus?
ReplyQuestion for LB - do we have the makings for The Big One here?
ReplyUST 10s and 30s yields are diving at a rate that suggests there's something big brewing.
Only 11 years ago today the market bottomed on an intra-day basis at 666 ... is LB going to call the "COVID-19 Bottom" today? :)
Reply@Gus I came here to ask the same question. LOL
ReplyWhere are Karen and I-Man etc?
People ARE RECOVERING from it. I wonder How it's different from a bad case of a flue Outbreak?
ReplyIn Canada it came from China and Iran. While a great care was taken to quarantine Chinese Canadians and that Cruise ship repatriated, Iran Import was BOTCHED!!! That's where the Ontario and Quebec problem came from.
The Ministry of Health said Friday that four more cases of COVID-19 have been confirmed in Ontario, bringing the total in the province to 26.
Of those 26, four people have recovered, officials say.
The ministry says one of the cases announced Friday includes a man in his 40s who recently returned from Las Vegas.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/coronavirus-toronto-covid-19-1.5488057
"Only 11 years ago today the market bottomed on an intra-day basis at 666 ... is LB going to call the "COVID-19 Bottom" today"
ReplyDamn, Gus. I did not think about that. Pretty cool coincidence!
Whether we rip UP from here or continue back down, I am glad we are re-pricing things again. It's been too long.
Perhaps China hid it for LONG time and the Virus is ALREADY here.They ONLY start reporting when they couldn't hide it. Lot of people got sick with flue - Who has it We may never know Unless ALL of us are tested for it. Some countries like India - a next door neighbor and Egypt( who like Italy) also has tourists from All over the World - How come THEY aren't reporting any deaths or major break outs?
ReplyUnited States Flue season numbers so far:
ReplyThis Year’s Flu Season Has Been Worse Than Last Year, CDC Says
February 20, 2020
In the U.S., there have been at least 26 million illnesses, 250,000 hospitalizations and 14,000 deaths from flu so far this season.
https://newyork.cbslocal.com/2020/02/20/2020-flu-season-cdc/
Sorry about writing too much on this subject - trying to clear my mind.
ReplyThe Flu Season in the US
While seasonal influenza (flu) viruses are detected year-round in the United States, flu viruses are most common during the fall and winter. The exact timing and duration of flu seasons can vary, but influenza activity often begins to increase in October. Most of the time flu activity peaks between December and February, although activity can last as late as May.
The figure below shows peak flu activity in the United States by month for the 1982-1983 through 2017-2018 flu seasons. The “peak month of flu activity” is the month with the highest percentage of respiratory specimens testing positive for influenza virus infection during that influenza season. During this 36-year period, flu activity most often peaked in February (15 seasons), followed by December (7 seasons), January (6 seasons) and March (6 seasons).
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/season/flu-season.htm
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As of Friday, the American coronavirus death toll reached 11, with 10 of those in Washington. Most of those who died were residents of Life Care Center, a nursing home in Kirkland, a suburb east of Seattle.
ReplyAccording to the Associated Press, the state fined Life Care $67,000 US last April over infection-control deficiencies following two flu outbreaks that affected 17 patients and staff.
Nursing homes are some of the toughest places to contain an outbreak, as the people who live there often already have compromised immune systems. They also live and socialize in close quarters.
https://www.cbc.ca/radio/day6/what-canadian-nursing-homes-are-learning-from-the-covid-19-outbreak-in-washington-state-1.5486651
After Russia refused to cut, Saudi plans an all out price war targeting shale and Canadian oil sands
Replyhttps://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-07/saudis-plan-big-oil-output-hike-beginning-all-out-price-war?srnd=premium-canada
River, I wonder what an all out war will bring if there are no buyers... which is what it currently looks like.
ReplyLet's see whether this mess spreads into the corporate bond market. If so we are in for some really deep sh*t. I will come up with the first price target while you guys get the tomatoes ready...
Once this is over the S&P will end up in the 1200 area (based on long term averages). Since there might be some overshooting to the downside I call for 999 (as a nice counterpart to the 2009 low and because I like the band). *runs for cover*
https://www.ft.com/content/d700b71a-6122-11ea-b3f3-fe4680ea68b5
ReplySaudi Arabia has launched an aggressive oil price war targeting its biggest rivals after Russia refused to join production cuts with Opec, in a move that threatens to swamp the crude market with supplies just as the coronavirus outbreak hits demand. The kingdom plans to pump more than 10m barrels a day next month while announcing unprecedented discounts of almost 20 per cent in key markets, in an apparent attempt to punish Russia, while squeezing the US shale industry and other higher cost producers.
Shares in Saudi Aramco, the state oil company, dropped almost 9 per cent on Sunday, falling below its December stock market listing price. The broader Saudi stock market sank more than 8 per cent.
Russia has built up a $170bn national wealth fund from excess oil revenues in recent years and believes it can tap that to offset any short-term price war, despite crude plunging close to its budget break even price of around $42 a barrel.
Mikhail Leontiev, press secretary for Rosneft, Russia’s largest oil producer, said that the relationship with Saudi Arabia had become “meaningless”.
The true result of the arrangement is that the total volume of oil that was reduced as a result of the repeated extension of the Opec+ agreement was completely and quickly replaced in the world market with American shale oil,” he said in a statement to state-owned news agency TASS.
Traders and analysts have warned an all-out price war could see oil prices fall to $30 a barrel or lower, bringing back memories of the last time Saudi Arabia opened the taps in 2014.
Million times Agree with Elon Musk: "The coronavirus panic is dumb"
ReplyCould it be WORSE than the Last flue season?
February 20, 2020
In the U.S., there have been at least 26 million illnesses, 250,000 hospitalizations and 14,000 deaths from flu so far this season. - CDC
The WHO's director General is INCOMPETENT. He was complacent at the beginning then became an alarmist causing immeasurable damage to the World economy. China should be punished for hiding the outbreak
As a Canadian citizen of course I am worried about oil tanking. BUT Alberta COULD have prepared better. Norway saved over U$Trillion by charging higher royalties, while Alberta's CON-Servative govt was asleep at the wheel. Dumb Albertans voted them in AGAIN
Alberta and Norway: Two oil powers, worlds apart - The Globe and Mail
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/international-business/european-business/norways-sovereign-wealth-fund/article25973060/
SPX almost 5% down. I am sure our American friends will learn at some point in time that circuit breakers based on relative levels are no panacea... once thery tried everything else. Today's opening should be interesting.
ReplyThe liquidity hose got hosed and the bottom fell out on energy which means I got filled and lost a couple of percent immediately. Should have listened to LB that the best way to catch a falling knife is to wait until it hits the floor and then pick it up... anyway, one more try.
This is messy. Not sure why the Saudis are launching the bazooka at themselves... now we have a 3¥ move.
ReplyStay safe, and stay liquid, my friends.
We are now watching the consequence of passive investment, ETF driven markets etc... but there is another story for sure, someone fairly big is getting killed out there today, it is always the same story, leverage creates vulnerability and then the sharks circle.
Trump was actually right, the dollar was too strong, but that is going to be corrected...
A few TLT puts and XLE calls in hand from the morning carnage, you have to have a few sanity trades. Keep em small, though, friends.
ReplyKnife catching in equities on days like this can be hazardous. As MM has taught us, days like this generate a lot of margin calls that can take a week to play out, so don’t be surprised to see signs of forced liquidation around 3pm everyday this week.
Anyone seen LQD? HYG? Ugly. Days like this are when that stack of TIP, AGG and cash is as good as gold, or in fact better today. Even REIT preferreds sold off under 25, keep an eye on that as an index of forced liquidation but also for when the bargain shopping starts,
Vix 60. TLT 180. Something to tell the grandchildren. This usually signals capitulation, surely the peak in Fear, i.e. VIX and TLT, but it may not be the bottom in equities, once Mr Margin starts his work.
I think Intesa and Fiat are cheap, but they may will probably get cheaper this week. Italy is being hit very hard.
Central banks are like, well, you are on your own now. Eventually the BoJ will be forced to sell yen but they should buy EM FX not USD, which needs to find its own level.
In equities, we're still above the low from May 2019, and considerably above the December 2018 dip bottom. Seems like testing December 2018 ought to be in play.
ReplyGood spot, Whammer.
ReplyYes. I had been looking at the 2018 Christmas Eve Powell Bottom, and I think that is a very decent call given that we still have to work through the issues of the mechanical aspects of settling ETFs, some of which contain illiquid components, plus the margin calls discussed above and other forms of deleveraging that have been set in motion.
As an old hand observed recently, the problem with portfolio management in bear markets isn’t necessarily what assets you own, it is the other people who own those assets.
Today was a rerun of 9/11, in a way. Saudis involved again, launching another Pearl Harbor style attack. Thankfully no fatalities this time. Next time MBS and Vlad want to arm wrestle, it would be better if they went into the woods to do it.
I imagine Trump is giving Powell the business on the phone and requesting one heckuva big Bazooka. At least the USD is lower, we need that to continue to relieve liquidity issues, and JPY needs to weaken also. M m m m m My Kuroda?
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/think-its-bad-now-wait-a-month-says-hedge-fund-manager-kyle-bass-2020-03-09
ReplyKyle Bass interview ...
OK So WHY did we lose $TRILLIONS:
ReplyFrom CBC - Canadian Broadcasting Corporation: How to know if you have Covid -19?
About 80 per cent of people will not get really sick from this," Dr. Samir Gupta, a respirologist, told CBC News. "It'll be like the common cold: sniffles, sore throat, maybe a fever, maybe some body aches."
The only way to confirm COVID-19 is with a lab test. Symptoms may appear as soon as two days after exposure or for as long as 14 days after exposure.
What should you do if you have symptoms?
If you are under 50 years old and otherwise healthy, just stay home and take care of yourself. Definitely don't go to hospital, says Dr. Andrew Morris, an infectious disease specialist at Mt. Sinai Hospital in Toronto.
"The hospital's like the worst place for anyone other than people who are really sick and who will need hospitalization. Just being infected with a viral infection is not a reason to go to hospital."
But it is a good reason if you are older, have a compromised immune system, or are experiencing shortness of breath.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/novel-coronavirus-symptoms-1.5438137
I am looking at this with tunnel vision - now I am not saying I'm always right but from a technical view I'd be in the ballpark. I highlighted before that spoo's needed to retrace to 2500 before going on to 3000+. It never happened and spoo's overshot by a couple of hundred pts.
ReplyBy the time we get to 2500 I think, as LB eluded to,all the margin calls should have been cleared out and all these crazy intra/inter asset class shenanigans with it.
Decision is yours.
"Money markets are now expecting another 100 bps of easing from the Fed by next week taking the benchmark policy interest rates to zero after a hefty half point rate cut last week."
ReplyHope Nico's having fun
ReplyWe had a feeling the bottom wasn’t in, and it probably isn’t yet for the spooz or junk bonds. Yesterday was something else, best to just watch in awe. Phew. As Ritholtz used to say, don’t just do something, sit there!
ReplyYesterday was a good day to do nothing. Remember the lesson from 2008, peak fear in terms of vix was October, but the Bottom was later. Not convinced we are there yet because of all the margin calls that were triggered this week.
Peak VIX may lie ahead, but the bottom is in for yields, I am sure, and we made some money shorting TLT off the spike to 180.
Capitulation is when you see babies go out with the bathwater, and a good index of this is when they sell preferred, munis, Treasuries and TIPS, you name It, it was all on sale yesterday. Total liquidation. Risk parity funds and machine trading are a big part of what happened.
The NY Fed actions today are essentially a bailout for risk parity, and remember that includes all those stupid timed retirement funds that are derivatives of 60:40. Another day or two of that and money markets would break, Mnuchin knows better and so does Powell, so they had to act, and they will do so again if they have to.
If you were going to start buying, the preferreds look like a good place to start. REIT preferred are trading at 20 or below everywhere you look, in some cases BELOW GFC and housing crisis levels. Oil majors also look compelling. The fire sale may persist for a while, if you fancy the opportunity, be aware of late day liquidation and mind how you go. Remember to observe your rules on position size, we have a 5% cap on any individual name.
High yield bonds don’t look attractive yet, or munis. I would not be rushing in to buy the spooz today, let’s wait for the end of day margin calls, and see how it is processed. Ideally you would like to see higher lows made before adding long exposure. Punt with options if you want to feel it out so as to limit exposure.
Somewhere on a beach, Nico is having a blast. BuyStocks, perhaps less so.
COVID - 19 babies are coming. 2 biggest provinces in Canada - Quebec and Ontario closed schools, Colleges and Universities, daycare centers, gatherings of more than 250 people. Stay home if you don't have to go outside. Some are asking to bar international flights. But China seems to have contained the Virus. Apple opened stores there yesterday.
Reply"China’s economy, meanwhile, has been recovering. “Within China, there is a cautious desire to get back to business as usual, but the bigger question would be whether demand for Chinese exports from other countries can keep up to pace, as it’s their turn now to scramble to cope with the outbreak,” says Keith Tan, senior managing director of steel and scrap at S&P Global Platts.
Here’s how copper has weathered the COVID-19 economic storm. March 13, 2020 at 12:18 p.m. ET
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/heres-how-copper-has-weathered-the-covid-19-economic-storm-2020-03-13
New cases in China have slowed, but climbed in other parts of the world. On Thursday, China reported only 26 new confirmed cases, while Italy’s total was at 2,313.
LOL. No wonder Mnuchin looked pleased with himself this morning. The PPT was under instructions to buy everything as soon as Trump began to speak. A bit of a shock from the rear for Mr Shorty, especially when they pulled out the SPR gambit. Nice. You have to laugh.
ReplySo a >10% down day and a 9% up day, this is not the stuff of bull markets. Perhaps the peak is in for VIX but we are still at VIX > 50, those margin calls are still out there and we have the FED and monthly OpEx ahead next week. Caution for US equity punters.
Elsewhere there are plenty of places to look for cheap stocks. Italy, China and the UK, for starters. Priced for the apocalypse, even China which is already in a slow recovery.
Just to point out that funding problems persist and the DOLLAR IS TOO HIGH. So it is up to the FED to address liquidity issues.
In other News: "You guys pump it and we will buy it." (Of course we are talking about Oil here nothing else). Trump to Saudi.
ReplyThanks once again for the commentary, LB ... always pithy and appreciated. It could be a long slog to the election in November ... low oil price, CV-19, and election uncertainty should cause some continuing volatility. Perhaps 2020 is the year to sit out in cash! :)
ReplyFed Bazooka:
ReplyThe Federal Reserve on Sunday slashed interest rates by a full percentage point to near zero and said it would buy $700 billion in Treasury securities, an aggressive step to insulate the U.S. economy from the coronavirus pandemic.
“The coronavirus outbreak has harmed communities and disrupted economic activity in many countries, including the United States,” the Federal Open Market Committee said in a statement. “The Federal Reserve is prepared to use its full range of tools to support the flow of credit to households and businesses.”
The benchmark federal fund rate is now at a range of 0 to 0.25 percent, down from a range of 1 to 1.25 percent. The cut essentially brings the nation’s interest rate to zero
And futures flips the FED the bird and promptly goes limit downnnnnn.
ReplyFED seems to be getting low on ammo, time to get out the unconventional tool kit perhaps.
Will this address the liquidity issues?
ReplyThe Bank of Canada, the Bank of England, the Bank of Japan, the European Central Bank, the Federal Reserve, and the Swiss National Bank are today announcing a coordinated action to enhance the provision of liquidity via the standing US dollar liquidity swap line arrangements.
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30 years. The hegemonic power that must be opposed was once identified as
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hand it over you big fat golliwog...its mine!
Thanks for the comments LB.
ReplyIt's a two-way market which brings back integrity to the markets.
Nico - hope you're crushing it.
Are the coordinated cb actions enough to address liquidity issues?
ReplyGovts shud just declare 2 weeks holiday. Like CNY.
Nope. Collateral is scare and buying more of the best (i.e. treasuries) won't help... we need some fiscal action. His Orangeness heard the shot but will stand in his own way because he doesn't want the Dems to benefit. The Germans of all nations are moving in the right direction. Our British friends are way behind the curve...
ReplyA good summary can be found here:
https://alhambrapartners.com/2020/03/16/powell-was-warned-last-year-money-soon-or-else/
I guess Nico is sitting on a beach right now suffering from insomnia because he can't stop laughing.
ReplyBoughtStocks, also known as BuyStocks until his meeting with Mike Margin, wanted to move back into his mothers basement but wasn't allowed because of the missing CoVid-19 test result. He sleeps on the porch in the meanwhile but has at least BBQ for breakfast, lunch and dinner.
Sam "Sell 'em" Shorty is sitting comfortably in his chair after a couple of visits to the proctologist over the last twelve months and doing well.
Replywhere is nico?...ya reckon we can drag him to sinaloa or maybe da nang?. the game is over. seriously i didn't think i had a chance of collecting ...i just know these people too well. if you knew the souths/eastern suburbs mob...there is no way in hell a nobody like me is going to collect millions and them being left out...not a chance.
my parents may be broke ...and die broke...but they were never crooks from souths sydney. and they didn't throw a pedo into the world. in all seriousness i couldn't give a fuck after 15 years if i collect what's mine from the big fat golliwog and his family...there is so much do in the future that the packer family won't even come into my wildest dreams...what a laugh they are.
Replyjust to prove my parents weren't crooks...the only time i've spent time is through my family.
Bazooka #2: $850 billion stimulus proposal would likely focus on payroll tax cuts, unemployment insurance, hospitals and Medicaid.
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Replyhow's that reference for goldman sachs & morgan stanely working out for me now?...i never expected to collect there neither...
i had only one chance in life of willing having a go and running with for a rich motherfucker elite...he died 15 years ago...it was all over the day he died...as for me landing in jail after he died proved.
there is so many gaps the peanut gallery just doesn't put together that these cunts having been angling through for years...
its the herd mentality within the celebrity gongster circles that gets away with so much bullshit in major cities.
and my warp relatives smugly leaving me fully exposed and on public trial against a mob that is warped beyond your wildest imagination...
what i do in my spare time and plan to do is so far beyond the likes of trumpy and his hoax covid -19 response team that i couldn't imagine crossing into america's path...the country is such a beaten horse.
but its only me...one number out of 7.5 billion...and that's right...because i'm free to choose where i go...and not bound to some mythological social contract due to past indiscretions. they're been repaid in full!
so with that ...you can put fork in it...or whatever you please...i don't care...but fuck me if you think when my day's of being a world spectacle over i am going to hook up with some broad that trains everyday to be a public spectacle for sake of a size 6.
I have been telling you all this was coming. I sold 5k Spoos cts at 3397.5, and 25k Stoxx cts at 3840 back in Feb. My open P&L is $230M & over $325M on these two trades alone. Half a billion dollars in a couple of weeks! Believe me when I say it was too easy. The world as we know it is going to end. You should have listened to me. I will buy another island and sail there. Ciao.
ReplyLook at all the cunts on here wishing ill on BuyStocks lol. The guy posted his exits after a leveraged 300% gain. Meanwhile all the sad little fucks here have been hiding away in their Mom's basement, losing money for 10 years trying to "make it back". Jesus guys, get a fucking minimum wage job and go enjoy your life. You'd be better off, seriously.
ReplyLOL. Just like old times here at MM.
Reply@LB, looks like there is a fairly big battle shaping up at about 2400 on the SPX?
Reply@LB even NLY got slammed today. Thank God I didn't catch that falling knife. What's going on with that
ReplyLiquidity... rather the absence of it. You sell what you can sell, not what you want to sell when Mike Margin knocks on your door. Look at LQD and HYG...
ReplyThanks for the reply Eddie.
ReplyI truly believe this is Overreaction. The annual flue causes more hospitalizations, more deaths.
HOLY MOTHER
ReplyI'm buying TLT here... Pray for me.
Please revisit this statement in three weeks
ReplyThis blood test can tell us how widespread coronavirus really is
ReplyA test can see if a person has ever been infected, even if they had no symptoms. MIT Technology Review
. John Ioannidis of Stanford University, writing March 17 in the publication STAT, argued that the true death rate could be less than that of the seasonal flu. If so, “draconian countermeasures” are being decided amidst an “evidence fiasco” of “utterly unreliable” data about how many people are infected
The new coronavirus has killed more than 8,700 people, which is about 4% of the 214,000 confirmed cases, making for a shocking death rate.
BUT the real fatality rate among everyone infected by the virus is certainly lower, and possibly much lower. The reason epidemiologists can’t say for sure is they don’t know how many people are infected but never go to the hospital or even have symptoms. In essence, modelers are missing an accurate denominator of the death-rate calculation.
https://www.technologyreview.com/s/615379/antibody-test-how-widespread-coronavirus-covid-19-really-is/
Fact is annual flu doesn't have provinces locked down in China and medical systems overwhelmed in Italy.
ReplySorry for some duplicate comments, I didn't realise refreshing the page would only show the first 200 comments.
Can someone start a new post if only to restart the comment thread please?
There is no mkt for bonds.
ReplyMy bond desk told us no point asking for a price cos there isn't one. If u need to sell something place an order and pray.
AT1s trading off 25pct in 2wks. Index dropped 18% in the last 3 days (if u believe the mtm)
PMs are telling me these things are not gonna get triggered cos banks have enough buffer. But looks like there's a good chance they'll defer coupons.
Any thoughts?
@River: you won't get Brownie points for erring on the aggressive side. Looking back everything will be wrong anyway, either too few too late or too much too soon. Never mind what people thought while the situation lasted. So per default you better err on the safe side.
Reply@Cowboy: a bank run will happen long before cocos trigger. A rush for liquidity is what kills banks, not a lack of equity. Deferred coupons however... why not. My hint would be to read the docs first and foremost because every bond is slightly different. There are even some old ones that trigger only once the equity is basically gone...
ReplyWhen to buy?
Just a few random thoughts ...
1929 dip buyers at 30% down got slaughtered in the following months, but I think the massive stimulus will cushion nominal prices in the medium term.
Factors to consider:
- Reverse what I think were excessive PE levels (interestingly, so far the growth stocks have not been hit disproportionately)
- Overshoot to the downside
- Adjust for revised E (losses and changes to future stream)
- Lower new normal PE corresponding to higher inflation and nominal rates in medium term.
There went the Powell low... stocks down, Dollar up, USTs up... this looks like the margin call is over for the time being (and risk parity deleveraging and I dunno what) and we have some more of the good ol' flight to safety.
ReplyCorporate bonds have been spanked senseless with a speed and intensity I have never seen in my professional career. This is getting very ugly very fast.
Re what to buy, remember what a wise man said: "The best way to catch a falling knife is to walk over and pick it up". Although there is very low volume at the trough...
https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2020/03/biography-new-coronavirus/608338/
ReplyWhy covid is not the flu
Replyamps just wants to give a shout out to our prime minister, scott morrison.
thank you for your package to the welfare recipients. no, seriously...thank very much.
it has only taken 17 years for me to come around and say that being a dole bludger has its benefits.