Macro Man's back from a family holiday in rural Texas, and lo and behold it looks like we're finally nearing the end of the world's longest, slowest game of chicken. Some five and a half years after Greece's naughty public finances first came under the microscope, the endgame at last appears to be nigh.
"Who cares?!?!?!" shouts my 26-year old alter ego. "Greece isn't Lehman!"
Yes, it's true that Greece isn't Lehman. Greece is not an intermediary to trillions of dollars worth of financial transactions across a myriad of counterparties, and issues of re-hypothecation of collateral and similar "oi, where's my money!" issues don't really exist. (Unless, of course, you're the IMF or one of Greece's other official creditors, in which case you're probably thinking "oi, where's my money!")
That having been said, capital controls are capital controls, and -quelle surprise!- the "one-off" imposition of such measures in Cyprus turned out to be...err......not one-off. On a happier note, capital controls in Cyrpus rolled off a couple of months ago, so any Greeks not prescient enough to get their money out of dodge can look forward to doing so in the summer of '17.
"Yeah, yeah, cry me a river," mutters the alter ego. "There's only two things you need to know about this mess: stocks are going on sale, and the Fed is never tightening. You know what to do, baby!"
It's true that the initial reaction to these sorts of fiascos is rarely the final one, and there's usually some sort of retest regardless of the magnitude of the initial move. That having been said, the alter ego has never seen anything remotely resembling proper distress in his "professional" life, and running out of Schaefer kegs at that great party in 2008 hardly qualifies as a "crisis."
"Low blow, old man, but at least now I can see where you got all that gray hair- listening to stupid war stories from embittered market veterans back when you still had game. Janet knows what time it is, and she can- to use your analogy- hook us up with plenty of kegs of delicious Bud Light Lime at the drop of a hat. QE uber alles, or whatever it is the Germans say."
Actually, it's "Deutschland, Deutschland über alles," which is as succinct a summation of Eurozone economic policy as you're likely to find. The irony, of course, is that the initial market reaction- to sell euros- is as nice a treat as German exporters could ask for to punish those naughty, naughty Greeks.
That being said, the "collapse" in the euro is at present rather underwhelming, to say the least: at the time of writing EUR/USD is still well above where it was in late May. If you'd known the payroll figure and that Greece would apparently finally lose the game of slow-motion chicken, you'd be asking for your money back to see EUR/USD at 1.10.
Actually, can I have my money back?
"Serves you right, Grandpa, for trading those stupid macro instruments. So old and yet so naive. Repeat after me: the only asset class to own is stocks (or high yield if you're a bond guy.) There are only three permissible positions: long, longer, and longest. QED."
QED? I didn't know that they still taught Latin in schools.
"It stands for 'Quantitative Easing, Dammit'! That's the only thing that matters. You can't fight the ECB and the Fed."
Actually you can, and that's typically how guys like me make money when guys like you are doing this. Nevertheless, there's no point arguing about it. You're going to buy stocks (or at least claim to have if they bounce back), and I am not. Regardless of what you might think of the SPX, why anyone overweight Europe wouldn't reduce by quite a bit is a question that we're likely to find the answer to over the next week or two.
Front VIX, which closed in the mid-teens on Friday, will potentially be a useful guidepost in gauging how the market reacts, though obviously the more useful signals will come at higher levels. In the meantime, Macro Man will look to add opportunistically to his short euro position and once again wonder if the yen is the unintended accident waiting to happen. Good luck out there.
"You too, old man, and don't forget to take your Geritol."
Hmmph. One more episode of Spongebob for you, young man, and then it's off to bed.
"Who cares?!?!?!" shouts my 26-year old alter ego. "Greece isn't Lehman!"
Yes, it's true that Greece isn't Lehman. Greece is not an intermediary to trillions of dollars worth of financial transactions across a myriad of counterparties, and issues of re-hypothecation of collateral and similar "oi, where's my money!" issues don't really exist. (Unless, of course, you're the IMF or one of Greece's other official creditors, in which case you're probably thinking "oi, where's my money!")
That having been said, capital controls are capital controls, and -quelle surprise!- the "one-off" imposition of such measures in Cyprus turned out to be...err......not one-off. On a happier note, capital controls in Cyrpus rolled off a couple of months ago, so any Greeks not prescient enough to get their money out of dodge can look forward to doing so in the summer of '17.
"Yeah, yeah, cry me a river," mutters the alter ego. "There's only two things you need to know about this mess: stocks are going on sale, and the Fed is never tightening. You know what to do, baby!"
It's true that the initial reaction to these sorts of fiascos is rarely the final one, and there's usually some sort of retest regardless of the magnitude of the initial move. That having been said, the alter ego has never seen anything remotely resembling proper distress in his "professional" life, and running out of Schaefer kegs at that great party in 2008 hardly qualifies as a "crisis."
"Low blow, old man, but at least now I can see where you got all that gray hair- listening to stupid war stories from embittered market veterans back when you still had game. Janet knows what time it is, and she can- to use your analogy- hook us up with plenty of kegs of delicious Bud Light Lime at the drop of a hat. QE uber alles, or whatever it is the Germans say."
Actually, it's "Deutschland, Deutschland über alles," which is as succinct a summation of Eurozone economic policy as you're likely to find. The irony, of course, is that the initial market reaction- to sell euros- is as nice a treat as German exporters could ask for to punish those naughty, naughty Greeks.
That being said, the "collapse" in the euro is at present rather underwhelming, to say the least: at the time of writing EUR/USD is still well above where it was in late May. If you'd known the payroll figure and that Greece would apparently finally lose the game of slow-motion chicken, you'd be asking for your money back to see EUR/USD at 1.10.
Actually, can I have my money back?
"Serves you right, Grandpa, for trading those stupid macro instruments. So old and yet so naive. Repeat after me: the only asset class to own is stocks (or high yield if you're a bond guy.) There are only three permissible positions: long, longer, and longest. QED."
QED? I didn't know that they still taught Latin in schools.
"It stands for 'Quantitative Easing, Dammit'! That's the only thing that matters. You can't fight the ECB and the Fed."
Actually you can, and that's typically how guys like me make money when guys like you are doing this. Nevertheless, there's no point arguing about it. You're going to buy stocks (or at least claim to have if they bounce back), and I am not. Regardless of what you might think of the SPX, why anyone overweight Europe wouldn't reduce by quite a bit is a question that we're likely to find the answer to over the next week or two.
Front VIX, which closed in the mid-teens on Friday, will potentially be a useful guidepost in gauging how the market reacts, though obviously the more useful signals will come at higher levels. In the meantime, Macro Man will look to add opportunistically to his short euro position and once again wonder if the yen is the unintended accident waiting to happen. Good luck out there.
"You too, old man, and don't forget to take your Geritol."
Hmmph. One more episode of Spongebob for you, young man, and then it's off to bed.
40 comments
Click here for commentsThe Chicken Has Landed, MM? Welcome back, by the way, guv'nor.
ReplyI think I just saw Funny Money retching in the latrines. Hope he's OK.
What's Greek for "patacones"?
Puerto Rico's governor: Island's debts are 'not payable' - @nytimes
ReplyWell neither are mine.
Well I'm having a hard time feeling sorry for the clowns that bought up a bunch of high yielding Greece junk and now have a big lip on because the barber has the #2 clippers out.
ReplyIf the math don't work it don't work just make sure you wear a hat eh!!
Now I'm a little suprised by shanghai's open after the pboc double rate cut. So interesting times.
Im liking Nico's spx position.
is Obat the new Abee ?
ReplyEurostoxx auction gap was like, 2008 or worse (-5.5%)
ReplySix Flags volatility is back
I have been buying EU equities this morning from the open. Wish me luck :)
Replynext time buy the future an hour earlier, and sell it when cash opens that's an extra discount for you
Replyit is hard to price European equities at this point so yeah, good luck !
@Nico. Thx. I'm guessing with the gap down on Spoos, you're (hopefully) having a good day?
ReplyHave unloaded half my position (FDAX, FESX) circa Dax 11150, stops to BE on the rest. Two chances from here. Hope you all have a good day.
it is not as morally gratifying to have a good day amid tragic circumstances, but yes good day here and a great week for Greece they should be proud of their astute politicians.
Reply@Nico - I'm no fan of the EU so fully agree, & good call on Spoos.
Reply(Minor update - moved stops up to circa Dax 11k).
After the initial sell-off by scared news watchers, I am still expecting the mother of all relief rallies in EUR und Euro Stocks. Or that is at least the way to bet. So I am a buyer of PIS Banks this morning (G got unfortunately expelled from the club). Anyone else for a PIS trade?
ReplyEUR was already strong last week on "no deal" days. I am expecting more of it.
i think I'm too old for this game now---all i see is people saying everybody is a seller so btfd! good old double bluff....whats the risk reward here ESTX 3485, es1 2075
Replyam i missing something( besides a buy button?)
Huh?!
ReplyWTF MM ... why didn't you tell us that you were on holiday!? :) I could have made a killing here*. Oh and that video is a peach!
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*For those reading here a while, they will know that things always go crazy when MM is away!
Just for completeness, offloaded another a quarter of my EU equities position (circa Dax 11170). Running the last quarter with trailing stop in case we re-trace.
ReplyOn an FX note, interesting to see the SNB intervention in Euro :)
During an early lunch break, my trailing stop was hit on remaining EU equities, so it's now clear to rally 400 pts :)
ReplyFrom the headlines...
Reply"Monkeys break free in great escape from research facility in Puerto Rico"
I thought they ran the island and are now demanding a Fed bailout.
Jason Malloy's analysis of Puerto Rican IQ...
http://humanvarieties.org/2014/03/13/hvgiq-puerto-rico-2/
Funny Money,
ReplyIs that a new song you're singing today? What happened to the lyrics of I'm King of the Universe?
@Anon 1:27, sorry I don't follow?
ReplyPlay nicely, children. To be honest, the name calling has been slightly tedious, and I think that MM would prefer if we all interacted on a slightly elevated plane of behavior while we are in his manor. Otherwise, the yellow card might re-appear...
ReplyPR is a huge mess, a Greece on our doorstep here. That mess might deliver some delightfully tasty muni bargains if a bit of mid to low grade muni contagion begins. Abee will be all over that, I suspect. Patience and cash are such valuable commodities.
Cheap and well sized option bets on Europe eventually caving still seem the way to play the headlines for now, rather than equity, but LB also thinks that the Greek phone company OTE will exist next year and that Greeks will talk on their mobile phones and landlines. The whole knife catching dumpster diving investment business is a matter of time horizons.
FT: @ Leftback 1:49 pm
ReplyWith about 3 Bln euros in debt, it's also a bet on greece staying in the eurozone short term (likely but not sure)
A coulpe $B to avoid thinking about Spain, Italy and Portugal yields going into orbit? This seems relatively inexpensive. EVen Schäuble isn't that much of a moron. [Is he?]
Reply"Some companies may feel a direct hit from a Greek exit. Deutsche Telekom AG (DTE) could be forced to write down the value of its 40 percent stake in Greece’s Hellenic Telecommunications Organization SA (OTE). The investment generated about 6.4 percent of Europe’s biggest phone company’s earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation and amortization last year."
Replyhttp://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-06-22/peugeot-to-siemens-fret-a-grexit-would-stunt-europe-s-recovery
How ironic...
Tsipras is slick (like they all are), gets elected saying no deals, no more austerity, my way or the highway, Now that it is crunch time, he chickens out, shuts the Greeks off from their money and now they are forced to vote for a deal and austerity forever so they can get at their money.
Reply"...top 20 managers account for 40 percent of all assets..."
ReplyBBG: Global bond markets face the risk of a “liquidity illusion” because holdings are becoming concentrated in the hands of fund managers, according to the Bank for International Settlements.
The top 20 managers account for 40 percent of all assets as dealers reduce inventories, BIS economists wrote in their annual report. Assets under management more than doubled in about a decade to $75 trillion in 2013.
Anon @2:40. It seems unlikely that DTE or DB will be taking any huge hits here.... this is just the way things work, nicht wahr?
ReplyInteresting. It seems like no one has any idea what is going on over there; Greece is just messing around.
ReplyPuerto Rico banks slide on default worry.
Reply10:15 AM ET • Popular (BPOP -7.5%), First Bancorp (FBP -8.1%), and OFG Bancorp (OFG -5.9%).
@LB 1:49 - Agreed. (NB: To any Anons who wish to make veiled insults in my direction, that's fine by me, but do be aware that I'm not v clever, so you'd do better to just say what you mean).
ReplySo Dax rallied just shy of 200pts past my final stop, and is now rapidly re-tracing (lol). I like buying dips, but I'm not one for holding risk too long at the moment, especially after bagging circa +250 Dax pts before lunch, and a similar chunk on Eurostoxx. Maybe there'll be another dip to buy tomorrow, who knows? Well, I'm off to sing "I'm the King of the Equity Universe", have a nice day.
www.nytimes.com/aponline/2015/06/29/world/europe/ap-eu-greece-bailout-the-latest.html
ReplyMonths of bailout negotiations went off track over the weekend, when Greek Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras called a surprise referendum on the creditors' proposal for reforms in exchange for loans. Tsipras advised Greeks to vote 'No' to the proposals.
European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker countered by saying "I very much like the Greeks, and I'd say to them 'You should not commit suicide because you are afraid of death. You should say 'yes.'"
A great quote but I'm not sure how convincing it will be to the Greeks ...
someone called for a boring summer... hell we can all hear martini shakers and we are having fun
Replythe referendum is not a given yet - but a win win for Tsipras anyhow
you say yes? 'you decide yourselves for more can kicking you can't blame your government (me) and we are here to stay oh you said no like us? it's good to have your (democratic) backing, comrades it'll be a quick shell shock of pain much much better than Troikathanasia
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ReplyNice comment on Greece by Daniel Alpert.
Replyhttp://www.cnbc.com/id/102799368
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