Special Guest Post: PG&E's Risk Management Fail



There’s a saying that goes “mistakes are the tuition of learning”. The PG&E case in California is rife with risk management lessons where we can learn from the mistakes of others while they pick up the tab.

A big story in the financial news lately is the significant liabilities incurred by Pacific Gas and Electric or PG&E, the biggest electric company in California. The company’s core business is to generate and distribute electricity, and as a part of that business, they maintain the power lines that connect the power grid.

Government authorities have concluded that many of the fires that ravaged California over the past two years have been the result of power lines falling into trees, and California law finds PG&E liable for any costs related to fires where power lines were at fault. Matt Levine, a man so cynical and sarcastic he makes me look downright kind and forgiving,  crushes the capital structure story.  Levine brilliantly points out that there weren't any secrets here....only a massive unfunded liability that had PG&E whistling past the graveyard for years...and certainly throughout 2018. 

PG&E is, for all intents and purposes, bankrupt. How did a regulated utility get to that point so quickly? What were the warning flags? Was there a trade here? 

Let’s take a look at how a macro trader might have thought about the risk in PG&E stock.

Here is the stock chart back to 2004. In early 2017, you were probably feeling pretty good. Nice run higher. No big surprises. The dividend has been increased consistently over the past two years and credit ratings has been raised.

PG&E Stock Price, 2004-2018

Source: Bloomberg
  
Then in early 2017 a fire in northern California burned 36,000 acres and destroyed 5600 structures, including 2800 homes and killed 22 people.  The stock fell precipitously. The 1 week fall in the stock price was somewhat similar to what happened in the financial crisis.  

As a macro trader, how did you price fire risk before and after the 2017 fires? 

Did you have this quote in your back pocket as the risk manager? ““California law makes utilities responsible for any fire started by their equipment, even if they weren’t negligent.”   If you did, you might have forecasted a big loss, bigger than any drawdown in recent history--and certainly bigger than the PG&E liquid balance sheet-- based on the damage estimates of fires in recent history.

But as Donald Rumsfeld taught us, there are "known knowns" and unknown knowns, In 2017 the game changed….PG&E fire risk was a "known known".  Ben Hunt at Epsilon Theory might say fire risk at PG&E in 2018 was public knowledge, but not *common knowledge*. The balance sheet tightened and politicians started to circle the company. While there was an effort to protect the company from further extreme liabilities by allowing them to pass costs from these liabilities onto ratepayers, the latest round of fires in 2018 that were even more severe in terms of acreage, homes and lives lost, put the company in even greater peril. Now bankruptcy is on the table.

When the November 2018 Camp Fire destroyed about 10,000 structures, about 100 people and wiped an entire town of 20,000 people off the map, PG&E was finished. But even then, it took a while before common knowledge caught up. 

Yet those looking for how this risk was priced could have also used credit markets to illustrate this increasing risk…below I have a chart of PG&E’s credit risk in 5 year credit default swaps (CDS).  Note how throughout 2018 credit risk was increasing (a higher or wider CDS spread reflects an increasing risk of default), even before the Camp Fire  Bottom line, bond markets sniffed this out while equity markets pushed the stock 9% higher in 2018 before the fire on November 8.
  

PG&E 5y CDS

Source: Bloomberg

Do you think it was a coincidence that PG&E management did little to recapitalize the balance sheet for fire liabilities or commit to an extreme and fast maintenance fix when they couldn't pass the costs on to tax payers? Which means....it would have been at the cost of the stock price, their bonuses, stock options and probably jobs? 

PG&E management and stockholders clearly dramatically underestimated the costs and liabilities attached to fire risk. Some was willful, some was stupidly optimistic, and some was no doubt simply a combination of unlucky and ignorant. The fires had incredible human costs. It will also go down as a case study in capital structure, management incentives, and the value of macro analysis that identifies incentives and opportunities across asset classes. 


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Nico
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February 7, 2019 at 3:26 PM ×

Anon on French banks

if you want an (agressive i see) conversation on French banks it would help if you chose a name here. Im french, i worked for those banks, the guy i worked with was a trading legend, agressive like 6 Kerviels, and he is now number 3 of BNP. This is how they reward risk taking.

TINA is probably the scariest concept in investing sciences. The 6x ETF just gives the idea of French banks gambling addiction. 1) They have the best financial engineering on the planet (Polytechnique and Centrale guys) and 2) they are very arrogant (you will agree reading my posts). Think LTCM mentality... their models, and consequent leverage work... until they don't

the elefante in the room here: French banks hold 280bn of Italian NPLs i.e. they own 80% of the Italian problem. Now you know why they are cheap. ECB guided European growth down today, Italy is in the gutter, French banks are here to pay for Salvini largesse. In my view this is the biggest problem of 2019

so it was interested to read yesterday "U.S. Bank Rally at Risk as Derivative Contagion Spreads From France" i.e. once again US gamblers would love to find some external excuse (cf. Kerviel 2008) for abrupt deleveraging on their shore. Well they too, have done TINA for a while. let's see how it all ends.

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Cbus20122
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February 7, 2019 at 3:44 PM ×

Recently, we've gotten a good view on why the most common bear cases for the US dollar are stupid.

By all means, record deficits, the fed shifting to a strongly dovish stance, the entirety of wall street issuing bearish outlooks on USD, and any other case you want for a falling dollar. Pretty much every thing that you normally hear that would supposedly push the dollar lower has taken place in the last 2-3 months. These issues should have hammered the dollar back down in the past 1-2 months, yet we can't even break lower out of the narrow range it's been stuck in.

Just reiterating a few points here.

1. If your analyzing a currency and only looking at one side (the US domestic situation for example), it's akin to trying to put together a supply / demand curve without accounting for what demand will be. Similarly, you can't have a reasonable dollar case if you're not analyzing the dollar relative to other economies. So long as Europe is in the shitter and seeing deterioration economically, you will not be able to push the dollar down in any significant manner on a long term basis.

2. People love to assume currencies are based off a defined and known supply of currency circulating. This makes things like QE and deficit spending relevant to viewpoints on currencies, since they would theoretically expand or constrict supply of a currency, impacting its value. But what if a currency's supply can be artificially created by global money-center banks on a whim? What if this very factor is the very thing that enables global trade and global funding for the world's reserve currency?
The idea that the dollar is predominantly affected by the fed is laughable considering how much smaller the fed is compared to the enormous money center banks in the world who expanded the money supply out there over the past 2-3 decades by creating enormous volumes of these dollar-based obligations.

3. These artificial obligations have an expiration date unlike normal currency. At some point, these obligations need to be paid back, and we're facing an enormous maturity wall of dollar-based global debt and obligations.

So in short, traditional currency views can affect exchange rates on the dollar for sure, but they aren't going to be the big picture things moving the value here. This is the very very short version of the dollar-based liquidity problem the world has faced since 2008, and is facing more and more problems as we go here. The dollar bearish arguments are not going to really matter until we figure out dollar-based liquidity problems.

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Anonymous
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February 7, 2019 at 4:05 PM ×



But the team member of the year goes to rupes...

" it was a planned attack "

really...which one...

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Anonymous
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February 7, 2019 at 4:30 PM ×



i know rupes, I haven't got a pot to piss in. But , I will try to make more than you so I can spend it all haunting your two sons when your gone.

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Anonymous
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February 7, 2019 at 4:53 PM ×

Nico, they don’t hold 280bn Italian npls.

BNP, for instance, has 79bn total loans to Italians consumers and companies (inc mortgages) in an Italian subsidiary that is separately capitalised and for the most part locally funded. Their total npls across all geographies was c30bn which was 91pct provisioned in 17. So either you are describing some kind of fraud, which is by all means possible but then please explain why you believe this to be so, or you are categorising all Italian exposures of french banks as “npls” without any offset for local liabilities.

It’s not clear to me that italexit would be overly troublesome to these, although it would raise risk premia further.

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Leftback
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February 7, 2019 at 4:58 PM ×

Score one for those of the ursine persuasion today. Possible/probable reversal candles in crude, spoos and VIX, among sundry others. Many risk asset instruments (@IPA: good spot on the manic SMH squeeze) had either pierced the upper Bolly bands or the 200dma, with RSI of 70 or more. It was only a matter of time. There is a high likelihood of an end of week bounce tomorrow.

We are not short, but we closed all our ETF longs, having sold the last piece yesterday. Not losing money is the new winning. Next week might be a bit stronger but we would be tempted to sell/short into strength as we see further weakness ahead.

Btw thanks @IPA for the calm and mature tone in response to the 12-yo peanut gallery. No doubt the most juvenile of the dip buyers will be along later to lick their wounds, bow to the greater wisdom of their betters and act humble… LOL. Maybe not.

Perhaps it's just a case of: "SING WHEN YOU"RE WINNING. YOU ONLY SING WHEN YOU'RE WINNING, SING WHEN YOU'RE WINNING. YOU ONLY SING WHEN YOU'RE WINNING".

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checkmate
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February 7, 2019 at 5:02 PM ×

LB
I think you got another good call out on overbought rally, UK as well so I hope you banked that one. You know at this rate I might just skip the macro and follow you :)

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Leftback
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February 7, 2019 at 5:04 PM ×

The interesting asset class here today is bonds. TLT not doing much at all, chart still looks bearish. Maybe a surprise to some, considering the action in equities. A few unexpectedly firm US data points would find Treasurys vulnerable to a bump in inflation expectations here, and that in turn might fuel an additional move down in equities.

Crude is being taken to the woodshed as concerns about supply glut merge with milder US weather forecasts.

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Cbus20122
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February 7, 2019 at 6:24 PM ×

@LB, bonds are doing great today, just not the long end. The shorter end is quite lively.

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Nico
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February 7, 2019 at 6:35 PM ×

on December 24th

Trump calls Mnuchin tells him 'your, your fucking trick calling bankers on a week end backfired! Find something else! We need a squeeze up so our 'friends' can get out of the market. Those idiots are still long. I gave them a tax cut i... i gave them the rally they're, they're greedy they never make enough now they're telling me 'algos' and 'CeeTeeHeys' are ruining everything and buybacks look bad'

Mnuchin on December 25th 'Cohn called Esposito. As far as he knows we can engineer a classic squeeze back to 200dma or 61% Fibbo in short order'

'no idea what you're talking about. how much is that?? the level? how fast? do it fast'

'around the 2730s. Pretty much every bear correction (ndlr: with the exception of 1980 when it shot right up, no return, after a recession) was followed by a bounce but it takes months. Last 2008 took 4 months'

'no time for a lesson and i dont care. i guarantee them 2730s. We don't have four months. I give you one month. Call Powell. I will keep shutdown for as long as i can to hide our bad stats and we let the good few stats out and i tweet them. I'll bullshit something on China'

'Ok i got Powell to cooperate here is the plan. We go dovish before year end, pension friends of mine will rebalance now. We relay every Friday to squeeze, ill tell Powell to bullshit a meet w/ Yellen and Bernank. Then expiry Friday could bring us near the 100dma. You need to tweet support on China '

'sure i can tell the boys to bullshit on China but you know them they can't shut up for more than a month. Kudlow will kill me'

'I hear you mister President. The way it normally goes, blogs and analysts will go full bullish the week after expiry and with a bit of luck we'll get the 200dma soon after. Tell your friends this is all we can do with those Chinese not bulging'

'This is great. Tremenduous plan Steve! I call them to give them 2730s in one month. It is a lot of money since my election. Do not fuck it up'

'You can trust Esposito and the NYC Feds. But your friends need to be out of equities at 2730'

POTUS hangs up.

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fcp
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February 8, 2019 at 2:37 AM ×

Flipped net short equities too from long in Jan.

Also treasuries look like they've got a pretty bullish set up.

I was hoping for a gap up on a trade deal to get short but this may have to do.

Risk off confirmed across credit, rates, crude, fx

Also we're now over 200 comments, so a new post would be excellent!

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IPA
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February 8, 2019 at 5:26 AM ×

For the love of Pete, why let the man who ran the company into the ground take over the steering wheel again? Lampert being allowed to pick up Sears assets from bankruptcy makes no sense whatsoever. More importantly, all their crap was supposed to end up in liquidation but now 400 big boxes are coming back from the dead instead. That should weigh on competitors. I think $46-48 area should be a good spot to pick up some XRT puts and see if the retest of upper $30s is in order. Also, December revolving credit (out earlier today) was not indicative of a very confident consumer, imho.

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Anonymous
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February 8, 2019 at 5:56 AM ×



I hope you guys pick up the early edition in New York tomorrow. rupes is giving us a special -ed from his own pen on how lachlan conquered the world on his 10 year sabbatical outside the family empire. Should be real treat. boys will be boys.

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TraderJim
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February 8, 2019 at 10:05 AM ×

Nice bit at the end of these Treasury minutes...

https://www.treasury.gov/press-center/press-releases/pages/current_tbacreportpressrelease.aspx

[The presenting member estimated borrowing needs to exceed $12 Trillion without factoring in the possibility of a recession which would pose a unique challenge for Treasury over the coming decade. Additionally, given stagnation in international reserves, there is likely an increased need for this debt to be financed domestically.]

So with the Feb out of the picture, China already shifting down a gear, are ocals really going to buy all the treasuries coming up for sale and reissue ? Implies higher rates long term, Nico will get to bank his spooz breakdown eventually then.



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checkmate
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February 8, 2019 at 1:55 PM ×

I would have thought that IF Nico got to 'bank his Spooz breakdown' then at least for a period of time there will not be a problem find domestic funding for treasuries and it almost certainly would not require higher rates has long as the safe haven ethos is alive and kicking. More to the point I think it's a mistake to try and look at rates and domestic borrowing levels in isolation these days. Post 2008 it's really much more to do with what is the global picture for growth/inflation....if it's forecast lower then even economies has large as the US with it's massive borrowing requirement will be forced into a 'beauty lineup' for govt debt and it's position in that lineup is much a case of safe haven attraction than just it's borrowing levels.

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Cbus20122
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February 8, 2019 at 4:22 PM ×

This just in... stock market rallies that are built on hope, and not actually following data = crap. Anybody paying attention to the deterioration in economic data both domestically and especially outside the USA would realize that this rally was 100% unsustainable, and based nothing more than "fed" and being scared more of an upside trade deal than the downside of what the actual economics are telling us. Believe it or not, before BTFD became everyone's mantra, there was a time where the fed going dovish was more of a confirmation that things are not good. As it's said, the bear steepener is the most bearish sign for a market, and we're going to be getting those here this year as markets are forced to cut rates. This was always going to be one of the biggest traps for our 10 year bull market... far too many people (the btfder's) were always going to get killed at some point when the btfd turned into a massive bull trap. Are we there now? I think so, but still awaiting further confirmation of course.

As I've mentioned, Europe may be cheap, but it's still not accurately pricing in the slowdown that has been coming through the data.

When you get the rate of change of economic reports accelerating downward, trying to bet on bottoms is a fool's errand. You need to wait until that rate of change data starts to slow at the very minimum before thinking about picking out a bottom.

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Skr
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February 8, 2019 at 6:38 PM ×

@Nico, Re:"POTUS hangs up." I really enjoyed that, hopefully you can give us a glimpse of what happens in the next episode?

So many contributiors on here that tick many of the boxes (and some that don't), regardless it is still a good article...
https://www.forbes.com/sites/travisbradberry/2016/06/28/why-the-best-leaders-have-conviction/

@Shawn/Admin, someone has nicked the flower-pot and I think they might have taken Japan too (omg they killed Japan. Bastards!!), Shhhh....

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Anonymous
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February 9, 2019 at 10:13 AM ×

TRADER: “Can you believe this Fed? QE this & QE that! And Powell, I thought he was different .. I can’t believe this shit, I hope it all blows up in his face ..”

ME: “LEMME GUESS, YOU LOST ALL THE $$ ON THE SHORT-SIDE AGAIN, DIDNT U?”

TRADER: “Go F yourself!”

- WallStJesus

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BTFD
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February 9, 2019 at 10:29 AM ×

We had a small pullback in SPX for 1 day (on Thurs) and the bears are rejoicing. On the Dow Jones, they are now only -3500 pts offside, rather than the -3800 pts offside on Wed. Unfortunately yesterday (Fri) equities received a MASSIVE bid into the cash close. China is back soon and the PBoC will resume buying risk. SPX is going straight to 3000.

I hope French banks don't go bankrupt, they will need a few billion in cash reserves, to lend to Nico & friends, to help cover the losses on those short SPX positions.

I was also happy to read of Fed talk on Fri seriously discussing using QE as a non-emergency monetary policy tool, and the serious discussions around "QE Infinity". The idea being that we will have non-stop QE (applauded by MMT enthusiasts) and the Fed can resort to buying equities direct on a non-stop basis. Under this scenario, equities would increase several hundred thousand percent from here, & I will be richer than Bezos.

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Anonymous
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February 11, 2019 at 8:57 AM ×

As predicted, China is buying. Europe opened up, and within 1 hour is already up +1.5%. US equity indexes will follow. We will be back at ATH's before Spring. Once again, the bears here will get massacred. I'm just glad they're trading demo accounts, or they'd all be homeless.

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Eddie
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February 11, 2019 at 9:16 AM ×

the elefante in the room here: French banks hold 280bn of Italian NPLs i.e. they own 80% of the Italian problem.

@Nico: really sorry to disturb a good story with boring facts but I got different figures. Based on the latest EBA transparency exercise as of 1H2018 all French banks that participated (the big 3 and Groupe BPCE, Group Crédit Mutuel, La Banque Postale) together have EUR 131bn NPLs (including but not only Italy). Even if I throw in the net sovereign exposure of EUR 91bn I get a somewhat lower number.

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Skr
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February 11, 2019 at 11:36 AM ×

We see WTI making a run at the $55 handle early this week, but falling just short of the target. Likewise we the Dow making a run at last weeks high, but again falling just short.

It's going to take something special to smash through these barriers. Open to suggestions what the catalyst might be?

Purely wearing the technical hat on this one.

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Anonymous
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February 11, 2019 at 2:18 PM ×

Trump is going to announce a trade deal with China this week, it will be risk-on and everything is going to the moon. SP500 will be back to ATHs by March.

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checkmate
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February 11, 2019 at 3:55 PM ×

Unlike some posters I don't know who is going to say what and indeed what anyone or anything is going to do IN THE FUTURE. For those armed with such a crystal ball you obviously put the rest of mankind to shame because as a species we are absolutely shite at predicting the future. ;)
What I see right NOW has not changed at all in prior days in that the Bullish % reading remains elevated over 60 ,but nowhere near 70 tending to indicate a fairly thin ,but sharp rally followed recently by quiet selling which still leaves it in overbought territory. For dip buyers over the last 5 years this reading needs to revert to low to mid 40's for any meaningful broad buying opportunity to exist. Yes, the past is no predictor of the future, but I won't be fighting the precedents in this case.

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Nico
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February 11, 2019 at 4:01 PM ×

At about the time our present day dipsters were born, Fed decided to cut rates . It was 2000, we had 6.5% rates and markets took a dive. Fed cut rates all the way to 1.25% while market lost a further 51%. In 2007, rates were back at 5.25 to a fair bit of ammo. From the time Fed started to cut rates to the times rates reached ZERO market lost 57%

Learn those numbers by heart, children. 6.5 > 1.25 -51, 5.25 > 0 -57

Fed cutting rate this year would be awful news for the markets. A hawkish Fed was a good sign for the economy (post Trump animal spirits) but those times of tax cut and buybacks are gone. For the life of that guy Pete, the bull cheering of Fed switching tone last month has to be the most embarrassing feat of operators fallacy in memory

6.5 > 1.25 / -51%
5.25 > 0 / -57%
2.25 > neg? / ? guess what Trump and Powell discussed during diner

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Cbus20122
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February 11, 2019 at 4:29 PM ×

EURUSD breaking down quite a bit here as USD accelerates. USDCNY takes a huge leg upward after the holiday break. AUDUSD continues to go southward, threatening to fully break down and not just retest the technical resistance it broke in August 2018.

Currency markets IMO are tipping their hands right now.

I'm not a super technical trader, at least in the short term. But In equity markets, a lot of stuff sitting on lower trendlines either retesting breaks made at the end of last week, or threatening to break. When you get a lot of stuff lining up like this on key resistance, I tend to view this as relevant and important if you start seeing things broken in unison. We got a similar setup in late September before things hit the fan, albeit with longer term trendlines. Lots of stuff right now backtested that trendline break, and now potentially breaking lower. No confirmation quite yet however.

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Anonymous
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February 11, 2019 at 10:32 PM ×

This rally in spooz from the Dec 2018 lows has been too fast. A healthy sign here would be some sort of pullback to lure the bears in (they're all pretty stupid fellows) before pushing strongly back up as the Fed turns ever more dovish and Trump manufactures a trade deal with China. Spooz can then take out ATH's and push above 3000. By 2020 we'll be at least another 1000 points higher still.

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TraderJim
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February 12, 2019 at 2:59 AM ×

The market is in the last stages of a long term rally no?

On the numbers, the yield curve hasn't inverted and US jobless claims hasn't bottom yet. Housing starts haven't come back to H1 2018 levels but not in a clear downtrend either.

Things to worry about - trade has stalled, hence slowdown in Germany and Japan. Italy is a basket case, as usual, and sadly for them they joined the Euro, so can't reach for the devaluation button. China's attempt to deleverage has, by some independent commentators, actually put them in a technical recession. Loads of corporate debt floating around, probably repackaged as AAA and sold to European pension funds, as usual. Crazy Fed changing it's mind between QT and wait-and-see.

However, the world economy as a whole is still expanding despite all this.

So we are not at peak complacency. I don't read the market-top euphoria stage, it still reads like a wall of worry, which is usually good for stocks to grind higher, albeit nervous pullbacks on the way along.

This last leg of the bull market is a nightmare, as you know when the crash finally comes, Nico's 50% retract is on the cards, hence the worry. Of course, there is a fortune to be made if you can time it. It will be exciting to see what happens when the economic indicators turn, or look like they about to turn, given the number of eyes on them.

Until then, I'm buying individual stocks which were knocked indiscriminately and thus have a margin of safety. Also as we approach 29 March, some UK assets look cheap. Despite the poor spreads, the better US financials are better value these days.



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Quiet1
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February 12, 2019 at 8:43 AM ×

Amazing the certainty that a 10 year equity rally engenders...

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Anonymous
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February 12, 2019 at 9:04 AM ×

The Nikkei is up over +2%, European indexes up over +1% and US indexes also up circa +1%. All this in one Asian session. As I mentioned above, this is just a small pullback before we push higher.

Nico - I'll make you a market right now. How about you close all your short ES position, and then just do a bank transfer to me of circa $20mm. (We'll pretend you're still short ES, while I take the other side). It will achieve the same result of you losing all your money, and save you the commish.

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Moniker
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February 12, 2019 at 1:15 PM ×

Accumulate ST Treasuries on any weakness. Stay short EUR.

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Anonymous
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February 12, 2019 at 2:47 PM ×

Nico now down nearly half a million bucks on the day... (yet again lol).

FADE NICO !

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Cbus20122
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February 12, 2019 at 3:03 PM ×

@IPA, I'm joining you on the short REIT view. $XLRE is really overextended in my opinion, showing exhaustion signs, and ripe for a nice move downward with very low implied vol. Bought some May put options here, so hoping this will work out.

I still like some REIT's, so I'm not a long-term bear on the sector as a whole (specific parts I am however), but overextension is overextension.

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Leftback
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February 12, 2019 at 3:05 PM ×

This week has been pretty much what we expected. A yawn. Our reading of this week was: it is op ex week, and there isn't a lot of news, therefore pretty much any news/rumour that isn't awful invites vol selling and the market drifts up into resistance on thin volume. That's usually a market for a swing trader to avoid, let the vol sellers have their fun.

Likely scenario: VIX bottoms out and spoos top off sometime Thursday morning. Next week has the potential to see another reversal. Some decent short-term calls above, especially from Skr, checkmate etc.. with which we concur, especially Skr on crude oil, and we think emerging markets go along for that ride too (a bump, and then fail again, this time at a lower high).

Sentiment isn't very extreme, we may yet see a little more bullishness creep in before the end of the week, as we push up to the 200day and return to RSI 70. SPX 2743 is the 200 day and the top of the Bolly bands is 2759. Keep an eye on that one. A spike through the upper Bolly band followed by a prompt reversal would probably mark the end of this [bear market rally / mini-bull], at least for the time being.

Bonds have weakened a bit at the long end, would not be surprised to see more of that ahead as a confluence of Fed operations and non-apocalytpic US economic data arrive in the next two-three weeks. We are not going to see anything of a recessionary nature for quite a while, not with gasoline prices low and stable and the credit markets still operational, so we will almost certainly see some bumps in inflation expectations as we head towards the Spring and the March FOMC meeting. Even if they don't hike in March (they will not), they may well start the hand signals about preparing for a June hike. If you sketch it out, you can see the possibility for a decent push higher in US10y yields into May. That's your macro for the day.



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Anonymous
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February 12, 2019 at 3:14 PM ×

"Some decent short-term calls above, especially from Skr, checkmate etc."

Those calls were rubbish! The BTFD calls would have made you +1000 pts on the Dow since Friday (similar for other US idxs). Did you hear me? A thousand points in less than 3 days! Look and learn.

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Anonymous
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February 12, 2019 at 4:01 PM ×

Equity indexes surging!!! Nico's loss heading towards -$1 million for the day.

Wait until dovish powell announces QE4.

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Skr
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February 12, 2019 at 4:26 PM ×

Nice one leftback! I was working off your Feb 1 Post. Thought you were away for awhile enjoying the spoils of your hard work. I was only keeping the seat warm ;)

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Nico
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February 12, 2019 at 4:39 PM ×

"Steve! i love that expiry week! so you saw we have done bogus partisan border stuff yesterday and we have no Russian collusion today. Headlines look great! Is your bogus announcement on ¡¡great progress made on trade talk!! ready for Thursday? I remember you saying maximum impact on markets was Thursday"

"Yes mister president week 7 has good historical stats we will buoy this market until Friday. We are telling everyone to get out, they did not heed our first warning they are incredible. Bears are getting punished and small retail can resist buying now - it used to be our favourite joke at Goldman"

"im sure that army of Russian trolls is wreaking havoc on financial forums. They barely can write English but their nonstop bashing really must get on bears' nerves. Cheap psychological warfare! Tremendous investment! cheaper than a shoeshine boy! the whole lot costs less than Stormy boobies!"

"hahaha"

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Anonymous
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February 12, 2019 at 5:34 PM ×

Serious question to the macro traders here. Since equities are the main game in town, any reason why the macro guys here are so bad at it? #askingforafriend

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IPA
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February 12, 2019 at 6:46 PM ×

Anons, has it ever occurred to you that not a single person here reads your comments? While you are trying to use this blog as a mirror to check the size of your genitalia, do us a huge favor and bathe before you come here.

@Cbus, agree on REITs, check out some data center plays that are still in stratosphere. I'm a believer that we will wake up one morning to a mass trading halt in the space as the entire Dru(n)ckenmiller-following mob tries to get out through a fiberoptic core all at once.

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February 12, 2019 at 6:53 PM ×

I think there is a real chance of IPA's upper bollinger band breach idea may come to fruition here, especially after breaking the 200 day ma here. It's a silly arbitrary rule, but enough machines may chase here it may be relevant.

Also, note that the previous intermediate tops in October - December all did this. They broke the 200MA, gapped up, stalled, then crashed. Seems like a very realistic scenario here.

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Anonymous
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February 12, 2019 at 9:10 PM ×

IPA - suck my dick.
Cbus - stop talking your book. Machines don't look at bollinger bands, only retail chumps like you do.

As I keep telling you retards, the SP500 is going straight up to ATH's. The more you idiots short, the faster it'll squeeze you all. Just pay me directly, it's quicker and cheaper. I'm going to take all your money anyway.

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February 12, 2019 at 11:18 PM ×

@anon at 9:10 pm, and I emphasize the small "a", because of your size. I don't read your repetitive nonsense here until you refer to me. Your lack of class and humility is why you are not taken seriously here. You will be taught a lesson by the market, and I won't feel sorry for you one bit. How does a half-brained moron like you know what "machines" actually look at?

The one who wishes for others' peril and trades to wipe out the opposition is an amateur hunter shortly to become hunted by his prey. Your ego and lack of respect for opposition blinds you to the point that you think you are totally invincible. I see guys like you being carried out of the pub on nightly basis. They sure talk tough only to find out that it was a fatal bluff, as there is always a bigger guy in the room happy to come over and show them who is really in charge. It always ends in tears. I'll see you at the pub tonight, punk!

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February 12, 2019 at 11:36 PM ×

@IPA The only people being taught a lesson by the market are you equity bears. I will see you above ATH's on the SP500. Enjoy the drink, you'll need it to drown your sorrows with those losing positions.

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February 13, 2019 at 1:01 AM ×

One pundit: "... the probabilities are extremely low that the advance from the Dec. 24th 2018 bottom is a rally in a bear market. In fact, since 1940, no bear market rally has shared the signs of strength exhibited by the advance over the past seven weeks. Rather, these signs of strength have been exhibited only in the early phases of major market rallies, specifically rallies off the 1982 and 2009 bear market lows and in Jan. 1987 followed by a 39% gain in the S&P 500 to the Aug. 1987 high."

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February 13, 2019 at 1:08 AM ×

Another pundit: "The market will rally to new highs as the secular bull market which began on October 10, 2008, remains intact. The second leg of the bull market which commenced in February, 2016, is the longest and strongest as it is driven by improving economic conditions as a result of monetary easing. Since the first leg lasted nearly seven years, the current leg is still early and still has some ways to go in terms of time and distance."

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February 13, 2019 at 4:23 AM ×

in case you missed it - Dalio meets Volcker

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=mMN17uBzCw4

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Cal
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February 13, 2019 at 10:02 AM ×

Latest Fed policy:
- Cease interest rate hikes
- Stop balance sheet run-off
Next?
- Start cutting rates again?
- Re-start QE?

Looks like the anons were right. The Fed is monetizing the US national debt. We are going to see rampant inflation. This has already occurred in asset prices (up 500% in the past few years), next I assume we will see a 500% rise in wage growth and CPI. Probably all in the name of MMT. What has America come to?

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February 13, 2019 at 12:17 PM ×

LOL. LB simply adores those who indulge in group think and herd-like behavior [note to some of our North American readers: engage irony detector here]

The increase in the frequency and amplitude of 12y-o JBTFD anon comments is accelerating, as typically occurs when the market is approaching a short-term top.

Someone should display a chart of ∂[anon]/∂t, with Bollinger bands and RSI, of course. I suspect a reversal candle will appear in due course.

Look, no-one other than Nico or BTFD can say for certain whether this is a bear market rally (Nico) or a new/recharged bull market (BTFD). What LB can say is this doesn't look like an especially good time to make money on the long side. Where were the BTFD anons on Christmas Eve or even Jan 3rd, one wonders?

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February 13, 2019 at 3:10 PM ×

@Cal, if the QE's were so inflationary, why do we have such low non-asset inflation? This has always been the issue with QE, people assume it's going to cause hyperinflation due to monetization while completely ignoring the transmission mechanisms.

QE is a parachute for bank liquidity that also helps to boost asset inflation. It can exacerbate asset prices, and does weird things to shift people out the risk curve in my opinion, but it's not going to cause hyperinflation because the money is not transmitting to the general population, especially the working class, which is where you would get real inflation if we had a decent amount of income equality. QE is not helicopter money however, so the money being pumped into the system by this mechanism is either sitting in bonds, or is just sitting on bank balance sheets as a hedge against illiquidity.

We have a 30+ year case study on what QE does if you just look at Japan. I agree more QE is likely coming in the future, but we're far from there yet at this point.

Also, as I've mentioned on here a lot, we won't have any meaningful inflation until we see deleveraging. We got our inflation back in 2018... it wasn't a ton, but we all saw what happened when rates and inflation started to rise. The markets couldn't even handle a modest amount due to the debt load and obligations that were starting to impinge on earnings and everything else. If we were to ever get a real inflation shock, you would get a situation where you would see temporary inflation followed by a ton of defaulting and slowing of economic activity, which would promptly whipsaw everyone back to a situation of high deflation.

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February 13, 2019 at 3:34 PM ×

@Cbus,

Europe and China are in the most fragile moments relative to other currencies. China has more ability to manage “gracefully.” The disparate economic needs of the EU constituent nations are the weak link. Yes, given current leverage (and inflated asset values acting to support said leverage) the combined CBs understand that to impair the equity tranche invites absolute disaster. Thus our BTFD friends are correct for now.

The Southern European countries are pretty much fed up with subsidizing German manufacturing and French cheating. I don’t know which country will dump the Euro first but when it happens, fiscal profligacy will be used to flaunt nominal growth and ease the leverage ratios. The first country that moves will look like a genius. As usual the politicians will take a good idea and run too far. That’s when inflation will start to leak out.

Timing? Who knows. When Merkel or Macron leave? I would guess that the UK eventually does pretty well outside the EU which makes people go hmmm. Or a banking crisis becomes too big for the center to hold. France is the key to the EU. It’s a big, fat PIIG masquerading as a Huguenot.

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February 13, 2019 at 3:58 PM ×

@Moniker, I tend to agree, but I'm definitely partial to the Jeff Snyder dollar liquidity case. I really think that's the lynchpin behind everything. China can't manage gracefully if dollar liquidity is drying up, which it is. Europe can't manage if dollar liquidity is drying up.

Will a new dollar lender step in to fill the gap and continue to short the dollar? We'll see, but it's worth noting how much banks have been pulling back their FICC programs recently. Not to say this is 100% causative, but if you just look at the charts of all the big banks that have gone heavy into the dollar funding trade, they all look like slow-motion general electrics from a chart perspective. What incentives do these banks have to get back into dollar funding? To fund more Chinese belt and road initiatives that they'll likely not get paid back on? Fund more non-profitable unicorns?

And another interesting point worth making is that one of the primary reasons Europe is so weak right now is predominantly China, which had become a primary source of European (german) exports. Why is this interesting? Well, European weakness is a primary determinant of dollar strength. If Europe slows because Chinese import growth keeps slowing this causes the dollar to rise, which then comes back to China / emerging markets and starts to pressure the insane amounts of dollar-denominated debt out there.

This puts further pressure on the Yuan to devalue, which would then cause even more problems for European imports since they would become more expensive relatively speaking.

Find me a way out of this feedback loop? Basically the global economy needs China to keep propping up the Yuan so that european imports stay affordable. But keeping the Yuan so high causes a lot of tightening in mainland China, which is at least a part of why we've seen a slowdown in China. China keeping their currency high also requires them to buy dollars, which is once again, dollar positive in the long run. Basically, it's just a big trap that doesn't really have any easy solutions aside from taking on more dollar-based obligations.

Just some ruminations from my end here...

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Anonymous
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February 13, 2019 at 4:16 PM ×

Nico only down -$375K in 2 hours. A good day!

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Nico
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February 13, 2019 at 5:43 PM ×

oh my gott

did i dream or Rubio just tweeted on taxing corporate buy backs?

hallelujah

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Nico
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February 13, 2019 at 5:56 PM ×

if i hear one more real member says that BTFDs are correct now, seriously, i will boycott this forum in a classic french manner. Posting strike

those little assholes, as LB reminds us, were nowhere to be see on Christmas eve when i went LONG. For the first time since February 2016. Yes, i went LONG in February 2016 too. It is all documented here. lol

those little assholes could only be 'right' if they went long 16% ago and not on the last 5% or so when the whole world is herding back to long. At that point they are only used as a contrarian sign that the dumb money is once again being sucked back in.

Except, they do not even trade. They have no money in the game. Honestly you real members stop mentioning them and honoring them as if they were active traders. THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE A NAME for god's sake. Those trolls disappear as soon as market dips. WTF guys?? get a grip

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February 13, 2019 at 6:00 PM ×

"It’s a big, fat PIIG masquerading as a Huguenot"

great point on France, Moniker - and so brilliantly put - the wake has switched from Italian banks (dead meat) to French banks now

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February 13, 2019 at 11:18 PM ×

Long time lurker, not interested in getting involved in pissing contests, but Nico this looks like a pullback in an ongoing bull market. Unfortunately you appear to be badly wrong here with no real risk management that I can see (none that you have posted anyway). If these BTD anons are right and SPX does return to all time highs, it looks like you are going to blow your account on an ego battle. No offense, but that's not trading, it's gambling (and bad gambling at that).

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Nico
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February 14, 2019 at 7:10 AM ×

Steve,

500 lots here may be the same as 5 lots for another speculator, or 5000 lots for Bridgewater so size is irrelevant - unless you reckon a dude punting 500 eminis has nothing to do posting here, too busy snorting cocaine off Giselle's ass on his 600 ft M/Y 'LIMIT UP'. I am a normal guy globetrotting with wife and kids. I can stomach 2900-3000 on the spoos. I made a fortune shorting Europe, i made a fortune selling SW1X London RE at the very October 2014 peak and got out of cable at 1.60, lucky. I make good money buying oil Q1 2016 and scalping bits and pieces which is not interesting enough to be posted here. And sometime you gotta give some back. But the opportunity is too incredible to miss, 10 years into the bull run, if you look at Q4 20% hard down as a wave 1. The bull can run another steroid year before tax cut buybacks dry up, while the whole world sinks with the Baltic dry. We will see. But all this is artificial and 2020 elections are gonna be messy. Do not doubt for a second that democrats would rather tank the economy - the only legacy for Trump - than see him reelected. 2020 recession is almost a consensus by now, politics or not. People who think otherwise are welcome to debate here, it's a great debate, intellectually.

As per BTD anons they do not exist as far as im concerned only the guys

1) with a name
2) who do not relentlessly insult the opposite view
3) who actually post informative stuff and not retarded CB QE hare krishna crap
4) who would stick around and still post when the going gets tough for them (corrections)

have a chance to be heard here. Do not expect anyone to blow their account just to prove internet trolls wrong.

Bear market rallies are horrible to trade. You can never time the top and only in hindsight you realise that everyone was euphoric and seeing new highs and it was all pathetic. Were you here in May 2008? Same thing. Trump might buy as much time as he wants on the Chinese trade deal. The 'trade' part of the deal is not what matters. The IP theft - to the tune of $200bn a year i think i've read - is the real deal. This is how China became so rich. By spying and stealing. For once i praise Trump administration for their colossal work on assessing China interference. This does not stop on March 1st... nor 60 days later if he extends the truce... this will never stop. Two hegemonies are fighting and world growth will suffer. This is my view, and i am willing to bet a lot of money on the China-US conflict.

One thing is sure: i will not shit on bulls and calculate their daily loss like a retard, if market comes my way. They never tell you 'which dip' they buy anyway. Everyone should pitch their two cents here, in respect. I still post here because i feel i need to contribute a little and not only lurk and freeload information.

Good luck and Aloha to you

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February 14, 2019 at 9:39 AM ×

Just a simple point. Tops mainly take longer to form than many people care to pay attention to and are technically, at any rate, are only transparent with hindsight. There are very decent economic reasons and technical that would have someone thinking we have at a top and potential first wave correction that signals a change to a bear market. We'll only actually know if the first wave breaks lower, hence the hindsight comment. However, if that's what your position is then you're probably already playing for that ,not waiting for it to happen, because if it does then you'll probably end up starting a position as part of another squeeze anyway.
By the same token in the face of the poor economic data globally you have central banks pulling back and there is no escaping the fact that people who bought risk in the past with that backstop have been very well rewarded over the last decade. Will they be this time, well if we knew that for sure we wouldn't have two sides to a market that disagree with each other.

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February 14, 2019 at 10:00 AM ×

Small correction, of course the bear position is also wrong with a meaningful new high for risk assets, but that is not something I am positioning for. I'm expecting our FTSE to get back around 7400/7500 and if that were to happen a first short position seems reasonable for me.

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Nico
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February 14, 2019 at 2:26 PM ×

"Steve Steve Steve what is going on??? STEVE"

"Mister President i told you we could not hide those retail sales forever. Shame you had to reopen the government"

"Find someone to blame. We cannot be in recession like the European socialists. Never. Not until January 2021"

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February 14, 2019 at 5:51 PM ×

OK, after what seems like a few weeks of sitting on our arse watching, we are ready to plan re-entry. I wonder if you can guess what we are looking at?

Back in December we suggested that lower rates were coming (correct) and that the trading environment for XHB would improve (correct) giving rise to a short squeeze of astonishing proportions that would annoy the hell out of @IPA (correct).

The result of the LB/IPA wager awaits the March op ex deadline. We now think that the rally in XHB is drawing to a close. Here is the rationale, technicals first and then macro:

Technicals:

1) XHB punched through the Upper Bolly band (Tuesday) and the 200 day MA, and then stalled out.
2) RSI reached 77 on Tuesday and has declined.
3) The 50 day is still below the 200 day.
4) Wednesday was a doji, today may be the same. Volume is pitiful, less than half of Jan volumes.
5) Strong chart resistance at about 38.50-39.00, corresponding to May, June and August lows as prior support.

Macro:

6) Bonds, including Treasuries, seem to be losing momentum, were sold after the initial spike today.
7) Today's retail sales and inflation data points probably represent the low for the short term.
8) Treasury supply dead ahead with Fed operations and Treasury auctions - curve steepening likely.
9) Liquidity may be diminished for the remainder of the month.
10) Possible peak employment levels, unemployment may rise slightly in coming months.

Added to which, supply is adequate, and low affordability continues to affect demand in many areas. So we are looking to enter the trade on the short side today or tomorrow, targeting an initial retrace to the area between 35-36 that was resistance in November and January, with the 50 day currently sitting at 34.72.

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February 14, 2019 at 9:52 PM ×

@LB - thanks for the XHB idea. XLI seems like a similar setup with lower beta.
XLI tried to breach mid-oct resistance of 75.80 then dropped back down. Almost all constituents announced earnings and have already popped along with this equity mkt rally.

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Gus
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February 14, 2019 at 11:43 PM ×

Jeffrey Gundlach's 20-minute interview today ... impressive:

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/gundlach-recession-prediction-030834565.html

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Nico
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February 15, 2019 at 7:16 AM ×

Gundlach and Elon Musk have the same surgeon unless it's the same person

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TraderJim
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February 15, 2019 at 8:53 AM ×

@LB

Looks like a similar pattern setup to April 2016
Same double bottom, sharp reversal up, RSI > 70 and break MA200
A correction of about 250 bp followed

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Nico
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February 15, 2019 at 2:18 PM ×

So Coeure announces on expiry day that a new TLTRO is possible - the thingy that put European corporate debt deep in the toilet bowl - and the ECB are currently discussing it. On expiry day. To continue my low budget, train-station-quality fiction i'll go with Trump "Abe, Mario, we ran out of our shutdown/fed/China deal twitter ammo this week you need to make up something today take the fucking relay it's a special week end"

2760 at market close is a decider today let's see if ECB can save the presidential weekend

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Nico
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February 15, 2019 at 2:25 PM ×

3250 target of current market bounce has been reached today on Eurostoxx, 11.5% above Christmas low

Three months ago the ECB warned that "only a serious economic shock" would prompt them to unleash a new round of TLTRO

Never trust a junky

Amen

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Anonymous
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February 15, 2019 at 3:37 PM ×

Time to kick China out of SWIFT

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February 15, 2019 at 6:59 PM ×

Nico's short reprieve (for a couple of hours yesterday) is over. He's down about $600K today, and every incessant tick higher sees another $6k transferred into BTFD pockets. The SP500 broke out decisively on the US open, and it's going straight up to ATH's. The US Govt/Fed/China/PBoC/BOJ/ECB/SNB/etc are all ultra-dovish, drooling to print more money and bid up equities.

The only thing to do here is buy more stocks.

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Nico
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February 15, 2019 at 10:11 PM ×

EPILOGUE

If you gambled that the week we'd see:

- two full appalling recession stats, retail sales being copycat of Christmas 2007
- Trump goes emergency solo on the wall
- a 60 day extension must be given to China

you'd see Spoos close above 200dma i would have bought your pills. 2019 markets so far are better than fiction.

Central banks have been watching this for a while:

https://imgur.com/a/qwoZiRK (stolen from ZH)

A word of caution to the Dreamers:

If you play long stocks, make sure you have serious stops in place: sell market if your stop is triggered or you might end up in the queue

CBs want you to follow them. It is a confidence game, called Hopium. Herds of Pavlov dipsters , relayed by the media, is what CBs need to succeed. So congrats on being part of the problem, we cannot blame you for trying to make easy money.

a -5% day will soon hit the tape, before month's end, so be careful if your timeframe is not years. Dangerous markets ahead.

Am going kitesurfing after the most miserable week of my career. Not financially, but intellectually. I am ashamed of what our markets have become, ashamed of our central bankers and generally ashamed of Washington DC who have rigged the markets the way of the Gecko.

POTUS campaigned AGAINST the 'ugly ugly stock bubble' and the 'huge huge $20tn national debt'. Stocks are an even bigger bubble, cannot correct normally without threatening the whole world, and national debt is an even bigger bubble than stocks.

Amen

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February 15, 2019 at 10:16 PM ×

"Financial disclosures filed after the midterm elections show that Nancy and Paul Pelosi placed up to $250,000 on Facebook (FB - Get Report) call options, purchased up to $500,000 worth of AT&T (T - Get Report) shares, and bet on up to $5 million on bullish Amazon call options dated to 2020 in October alone"

http://clerk.house.gov/public_disc/ptr-pdfs/2018/20010631.pdf

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February 16, 2019 at 3:52 PM ×

Just a few thoughts:

1. If it wasn't already obvious, Trump has pinned his "success" as a president almost entirely to the economy and stock market. In some ways, this is smart because the economy is really what determines if a president gets re-elected. But in most ways, this is stupid because it puts the president in a position of having to pump the economy or market in the short term to make appearances look great.

2. If China comes out and is able to continue to meaningfully stimulate for a considerable amount of time here (meaning, they won't be dollar constrained in doing so), I would expect a bubble to form in the US stock market. The scenario we're in right now actually has a lot of similarities to the other two times in which we saw enormous bubbles form in the US market... the dotcom bubble and the pre-depression bubble. In both these scenarios, we saw weakness from around the world accompanied by excess liquidity, which flowed into the USA, which was the strongest economy at the time. These times were accompanied by lots of dollar strength as well. With that said, we need to see some real stabilization outside the USA for this situation to take hold since you can't have bubbles when global markets are all heading downward.

3. This isn't my predominant scenario by any means, but I just think it's a worthwhile scenario to keep in mind as a still-distinct possibility. In a lot of ways, I think if we do see a recovery from the current weakness without any meaningful de-leveraging, I think this could be an inevitability. But this would be more of a 2020 type scenario than anything else.

4. If this did happen, you would eventually get a depression type crash afterward.

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February 16, 2019 at 6:01 PM ×

We started a short of TLT and XHB yesterday.

@Nico: I do think that op ex and very low trading volume had a lot to do with the week's events, along with the absence of any Fed open market operations. This week ahead sees the largest maturity of USTs from the balance sheet since November, plus we have the three-day weekend with US markets closed on Monday. A couple of factors there that can produce a reversal in market momentum.

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February 16, 2019 at 6:02 PM ×

This probably would be a bad week to be short USD or in any of the short USD proxy trades (EEM, GDX, AUD, FXI etc..).

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Nico
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February 19, 2019 at 5:36 PM ×

Chinese housing house of cards

http://investinginchinesestocks.blogspot.com/2019/02/big-trouble-in-china-housing-govt-bans.html

China borrowed 5% of its GDP in January. 5% !!!! you better be sure that 1) all things are not well in the China shop and 2) by stimulating so desesperately they show they will never change their methods and way - which is precisely what the 'trade talks' are about. Americans want China to change the way it does business only to watch China n-tuble down on their bad practice

FYI China Evergrande Group is now used as a proxy to monitor the whole housing sector and by way of extreme credit leveraging, China economy as a whole

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Anonymous
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February 19, 2019 at 9:15 PM ×

@Nico: did you notice that the French Xi-documentary-youtube that you mentioned last month was just taken down?

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February 20, 2019 at 12:39 AM ×

Nico... according to the Nekkei Asia Review of February 13th there are 65 million empty apartments in China ...Incredible.

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Nico
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February 20, 2019 at 1:37 AM ×

some 'friends of China' in France did not like this documentary one bit

it will take Xi to move another 150 million people from the countryside to cities to occupy such apartments... if only they could afford it

meanwhile a Chinese family bought the land plot next to us last year in Hawaii - $12m for 0.3 acre - and offered $13m for the similar adjacent plot which got refused. So they are building a behemoth house on the 0.3 acre. This is the only crane in the whole town for they build in concrete not in traditional wood. They wanted a 6-car garage in a basement - unheard of here - and a pool on the roof. Total building cost: $20m+ i.e. $32m operation when traditional houses are listed at $10m for same plots.

Hard to imagine China will not end like 1980s Japan

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Leftback
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February 20, 2019 at 2:21 AM ×

Overbought became more overbought today (especially in XHB, after the NAHB, i.e. soft survey data); there was a little selling into the close, so that the "Smart Money index" for the day was negative. Later this week we get to see a bit more real economy data, durables and existing home sales.

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February 20, 2019 at 10:18 AM ×

Anybody perplexed with the strength of gold even with the dollar being pretty firm? Having a feeling AUD is going lower given the Aussie housing backdrop.

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Carry Trader
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February 20, 2019 at 10:19 AM ×

Re: Nico, once the money leaves China its got to be spent somewhere, even if it’s in the ground.

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February 20, 2019 at 1:14 PM ×

China would be sooo lucky to come out of this like Japan...:)

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Cbus20122
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February 20, 2019 at 2:28 PM ×

Gold is going higher because real yields going lower.

As for everything China, there is increasing strain, but even as an outspoken China bear, I'll mention that their capital controls are the tape that keeps everything together. And unfortunately, they're actually fairly effective for the time being from what I've heard. This is part of the purpose of the social credit system to a degree.

With that said, corruption which is rampant in China will still lead to lots of capital flight, just not from the average joe there. It'll all be more from CCP members who can flood their own pockets and find creative ways to get the capital outside their borders. I would argue that Hong Kong's real estate market is likely a decent laundering mechanism on its own, which is especially relevant since it's one of the few places where RMB is allowed to flow to outside Chinese mainland borders.

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February 20, 2019 at 3:12 PM ×

On the topic of China. We're finally seeing some data showing the size of their stimulus in January, yet there are also a lot of non-confirming signals as well.

Generally speaking, I think a much more relevant question people need to ask themselves is how much of the Chinese stimulus is simply going into debt service? Also, how much of this is going to leave the border via capital flight (which is tough there, but it does happen). The two aforementioned items are more and more of a problem the longer China plays this game of stimulating every time there is a downturn. If a Chinese company knows that China is going to stimulate and that there isn't much in the way of actual demand for their products / services, they'll likely just roll the debt, and then find ways to convert the RMB into something that can actually hold the value long term (real estate, metals, overseas investments, etc).

So despite the enormous injections of liquidity, less is going into the real economy there, and we're seeing data such as exports to China still get hammered in January. Chinese M1 is still dropping. Copper interestingly is rising in price, but actual demand from manufacturers is not improving, leading me to believe this is more speculative buying in the futures market as opposed to actual purchasing copper to use in the real economy (construction). Keep in mind, Copper is used as collateral in China, so going back to the capital flight / capital conversion idea, it would make sense for speculators to buy copper w/ RMB as it serves as a more stable store of value relative to what may happen to the RMB when this all comes unwound.

Either way, China IS stimulating, but stimulus has a lag before it actually affects real economy there, typically of about 1 year or so. IF you look at the SHCOMP, this isn't too dissimilar from what we saw in 2014, with a huge spike in the index around the same time they started stimulating, despite the fact that the actual data there was deteriorating rapidly into the 2016 lows. So IF (big if) the stimulus is large and effective, I would look more for a real bottom around late 2019 going into 2020 than anything else.

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Jim
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February 20, 2019 at 3:39 PM ×

LB:

Some related info on the homebuilders:

https://twitter.com/jmanfreddi/status/1098244085696073729

( haver.com "U.S. Home Builder Index Continues To Rise"

https://twitter.com/jmanfreddi/status/1098242712980070400

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February 20, 2019 at 4:37 PM ×

https://www.tradingview.com/chart/VNQ/EBIkAYx3-REIT-s-Real-Estate-Breaking-Dec-24th-Uptrend/

@LB, @IPA, looking like we're getting our breakdown in REITland here today.

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February 20, 2019 at 8:04 PM ×

Once again, we bought every dip in spooz & were rewarded. Permabears got taken to the woodshed. Same story, every day of 2019.

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February 21, 2019 at 6:34 AM ×





Shout out to little fella. I can honestly say I wish your father never came into my life. Do you think the last 15 years have been a waste for me? not a bit. The struggle is real for me as it is for everybody..day after day. What the last 15 years of working in my own factory has taught me is..I was right...I was always right...and the powers that be know I don't give a fuck what they say...I was right.

You and your pack of old school ties , crony business friends and politicians , and royal connections are a pack of fuckin bludgers... just like her and her team are , and will ever be.
You all hide behind this blog and your social status and wealth and make best with what ever I can deliver just like her and her team had the old lady behind the betting shop window relay on the phone what football team I would back on the weekend and enjoy the ride. And just like that team ......instead of be magnanimous after all having a little victory... when I turned up to collect my winnings... you would have be surrounded by undercovers. Just a little thank you and be on your way would be suffice. If you lot think you made a quid out of me...your seriously having your self on...I made it that way to be sure. So you new york hedgies with your royal emblem connections and you blue blood financial tossers...your all fuckin bludgers....sell it all!

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February 21, 2019 at 6:42 AM ×



mortimer !

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Leftback
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February 21, 2019 at 2:35 PM ×

@Amps timing may be impeccable. There are some signs that a turn is in the works.

Looking at the screens we see lower prices for Treasuries, gold, crude oil, AUD and US equities. Not typical risk-off.

We saw this in early Feb 2018 and in October 2018. Now if I didn't know better, I would say we are seeing the effects of the QT calendar again here and liquidity is drying up a bit. Don't know about you but I have the Nomura QT calendar on my desktop. No doubt there will be a narrative later, about Australia and China, tariffs or something. But is that the real story?

XHB (and IYR) followed TLT lower yesterday after we got a little bump in US10y yields.

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February 21, 2019 at 6:07 PM ×

back to favorite topic

"ECB gives Italian banks some Euro 250 bln in “Long-Term Repos” at zero cost. They could go and lend that money to Italian corporates to stimulate growth, jobs and the economy.. (as suggested in the QE policy guidelines), but we all know Italian banking runs on NPLs of about a gazillion percent, (I exaggerate… the number was around 14.38% in 2017 according to the World Bank - which is four times higher than any other European country). It’s therefore more efficient for everyone to recycle that free ECB money by buying Italian debt."

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-02-21/blain-european-banks-are-most-successful-ponzi-scheme-all-time?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+zerohedge%2Ffeed+%28zero+hedge+-+on+a+long+enough+timeline%2C+the+survival+rate+for+everyone+drops+to+zero%29

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Nico
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February 21, 2019 at 6:14 PM ×

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2019-italian-banks/

since someone commented they cab read here the 285bn figure i mentioned some days ago was total credit exposure by French banks on Italy. It's huge.

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Nico
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February 21, 2019 at 6:34 PM ×

Pimco: Now Is The Time To Start Selling

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvS0wsqxtnQ&feature=player_embedded

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February 21, 2019 at 11:54 PM ×

The french banks have Italian subs that are locally funded so that number is very misleading. Italian npls have been heading down for the last few years so no issues there either.

There have been big outflows out of financials. Everyone is looking for the last crisis (financials or Eurozone crisis) but they are fighting the wrong war and taking the other side will pay large. Financials are cheap. The things that blow up will be left field/new. Last year was a trading market, overextending and then violently correcting across a number of themes. Right now we are in no mans land waiting for some new stupidity to take hold.

Some ppl going on about recession, and yet what if q4 18 was it and things pick up throughout 2019?

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February 22, 2019 at 9:26 PM ×

I'll say one thing about this market - whatever the direction of your market call, it will let you know swiftly whether you are right or wrong.
One suspects it is going to fairly obvious when this market turns. Even if you are flat at certain levels.

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February 22, 2019 at 9:42 PM ×

We're going straight up to ATH's in the SP500. I know because I'm always right. If you're not on board, back up the truck & size buy spooz while you can.

I've said before: Central Banks exist for the express purpose of taxing poor working class peasants (via inflation & cost of living) to pay people like me through non-stop asset price appreciation. It sickens me when I see poor families still able to feed their kids, when instead I could be having another Porsche, or 7-star Maldives holiday. I mean really?

Don't worry about long-term targets. Once the Fed re-starts QE stocks are gonna double from here.

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February 22, 2019 at 11:12 PM ×

I fear BOJ/SNB are at “work” in US markets. Reminds me of the heady mid-80s when the harbor bombers would drop indiscriminate massive buy programs through second-tier and regional brokerages (BB Harriman/Baird were juiced). 1917 Part Deux on deck.

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February 23, 2019 at 10:16 AM ×

@Nico

Gundlach - exit corporate credit and pick up again cheap at next recession (his point being don't bother trying to make a few bps in the last leg here), also stocks are in a bear market - markets are slowing rolling over, buyers who bought stocks in the December low will become heavy sellers when the index drops below their entry point.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3lth6JYD8U

@Anon/BTFD

His point on more QE propping up markets is that asset prices are already high so the scope to increase them further is limited. Dalio has made this point before as well, that we are in a late stage credit cycle, such that further stimulus has diminutive marginal effect.

Neither see a recession coming in 2019 although some indicators are starting to turn



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Nico
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February 25, 2019 at 8:01 AM ×

hey Jim

i regret not posting Gundlach's last week it is supremely brilliant and clear - stuff even grandma can understand

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Nico
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February 25, 2019 at 9:02 AM ×

https://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/china-has-upper-hand-against-trump-by-stephen-s--roach-2019-02

also the Long View relayed the big spat between Chinese Premier Li and Central Bank on January stimulus - this rare pubilc spat is worth mentioning

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February 25, 2019 at 4:31 PM ×

The grind is on once again. The risk in coming week is GDP reading on Thursday which I expect to surprise to the downside. CTA's are now fully long, shorts are now mostly covered from December, but the market may continue to stay afloat out of fear of missing out on the trade deal. With that said, things are setting up so that the long-play has fewer and fewer catalysts and is going to exhaust at some point. You will always get some type of retest, but the question is how low does this retest go?

Just like I was mentioning back during the summer last year, it may be smart to wait until the buyback blackout window to short (if that's your inclination). With share buybacks being so enormous right now and playing such an outsized role in shorting vol here, we're setting up for a situation where we could see a decent selloff heading into late March-early April.

I actually think that the market influence (pumping) by trump & xi, the heavy shorting of vol by buybacks, the rapid flipping from fully net short to fully net long in CTA's, etc have put us in somewhat of a dangerous situation. When all the factors keeping the market afloat leave, you open up an opportunity for things to accelerate downward at a much faster pace than if these things weren't in place from the start, especially when the systematic strategies flip short in an extremely quick way. Rapid upward moves with little vol beget rapid downward moves with lots of vol, thats just the nature of these things.

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February 25, 2019 at 6:14 PM ×

Interesting developments in the UK, where LB is presently watching on. There is clear evidence that UK businesses are exerting pressure on MPs on both sides, so there is now a higher chance than at any time in the last year that Brexit will not take place.

Domestically, back over in the US, the XHB reversed quite sharply this morning, after the initial wave of enthusiasm. Did we just run out of buyers?

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Nico
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February 25, 2019 at 9:40 PM ×

Cbus

"you open up an opportunity for things to accelerate downward at a much faster pace "

It is called a wave 3. watch and see. There is no more retest in the cards, but a violent slice through where the cosy 2340s buyers realise they never banked on the 20% bounce and are now losing money rapidly. Target 2100, pre-Trump levels, pre-Raphaelite way (clean line)


On another note Windstream Holdings Inc is preparing for bankrupcy. A tiny telco... $6 billion of bonds & loans outstanding

there are so many zombie companies in the US and China... forget Fed forget buyback... corporate bonds are the current bubble so for catalysts, watch another 50 other Windstream discreetly filing for bankrupcy

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February 26, 2019 at 12:44 AM ×

windstream is filing for technical reasons after losing autelius litigation you clown.

It’s fine to be bearish but several times you’ve thrown around inaccurate articles and stories. Clearly you are trying to mislead people

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February 26, 2019 at 8:47 AM ×

"autelius litigation". Misleading would sound better if you actually spelled it correctly "Aurelius".

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February 26, 2019 at 2:40 PM ×

Regardless of people's opinions on spoos, too many people here continue to be on the wrong side of the bond trade in my opinion.

- US10Y chart looks extremely bullish at this point

- Fed has paused, and there are very few times in history where pauses didn't turn into cutting cycles not long afterward

- Global tensions & risk off sentiment will draw people into treasuries

- USD strength can also lend itself towards flows into USD denominated debt

- Any QT cutting or slowdown will also be bullish for bonds. Any renewed QE will be even more bullish US bonds.



We may get inflation long term as the boogeyman, but that's more likely the 3-5 year outlook as opposed to the 1-2 year outlook. In short, as long as we're getting slowing economic growth, bonds will be the easiest play here. It works well in the event that markets are being backstopped by central bank policies, and it also works well if markets are falling due to not being backstopped by central bank policies. It's a boring trade, but risk parity isn't about to die overnight.

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February 27, 2019 at 1:45 PM ×

Some food for thought for those playing the home builders:

https://www.alhambrapartners.com/2019/02/26/the-fate-of-real-estate/

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February 27, 2019 at 3:29 PM ×

USDHKD about to hit the peg again. My view: https://www.tradingview.com/chart/USDHKD/frt0Hdh7-USDHKD-and-its-relationship-to-Emerging-Markets-vs-US-Equities/

It's still a bit of a soft view on things, but there is an uncanny relationship here.

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Nico
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February 28, 2019 at 12:14 AM ×

https://imgur.com/a/VMZGXna

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February 28, 2019 at 1:11 PM ×

End of month squaring right when the risk bullish % is at an extreme and flattening out. Seasonality on top and we are also in the period end of jan to end of mar where risk on often tops out. Markets don't necessarily 'tank' thereafter, rotation can and does happen, but neither do they tend to make much further progress that warrants the downside risks from the preceding risk on period. Make your adjustments as you see fit as indeed have I.

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February 28, 2019 at 5:06 PM ×

GDP came in far better than I had expected, largely due to net exports. This is supporting markets, but the GDP #'s along with the blowout Chicago fed PMI read is going to make it much more difficult for the fed to not hike. On the contrary, initial claims is still sitting at a higher #, supporting the idea that the job market is seeing a lot of pressure and is starting to turn over. Add on top of that lots of weak earnings + guide downs, and we're in an interesting market from a macro perspective.

Just speculation here, but I think markets will have a weak rally in the first two weeks of March trying to capture new 2019 highs before we see a dropdown to a higher low starting in mid March.

Based on what I've seen, markets have rallied largely on shorts covering and CTA's flipping back from fully short to fully long + huge buybacks. Retail has not bought back into the rally all that much, but there is room for retail to step back in here to try to retest all time highs. If we get renewed SPX strength vs. the rest of the world like I think we will (which aligns with econ data coming through), we should see renewed dollar strength, fed not being entirely dovish, and some more of the global divergences we saw midway through 2018. Despite earnings growth slowing, I think the relative outperformance, momentum, and what I see as potential dollar strength over the spring / summer, I can see SPX getting to ATH's contrary to my previous views. In this scenario, I think that anything more speculative and "growthier" would outperform.

Despite the econ data, I keep going back to the 1998-2000 scenario here as a slightly similar analogue. Not that I think it'll play out exactly the same way, but I can easily see a scenario where the "real economy" stocks suffer as they track econ data more closely, while the speculative "new economy" stocks outperform greatly as momentum gets chased, liquidity flows in, and there is a disconnect from the data.

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February 28, 2019 at 5:42 PM ×

So the poll is in! We have the 2 default bulls, 4 flat, the 1 default short and to round off the bell curve 1 agrees totally with everything.
Few more still to come?

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February 28, 2019 at 9:12 PM ×

You could probably count me more in the bear camp. My above scenario of a new all time high isn't my base case by any means, but is more a "what if" scenario if the data turns around and global easing starts to move markets and economics positively. So far, that is not the case from the economics perspective. But I do plan to use it to guide my long-short views and positioning in the next year or so, since the same dynamic should take hold regardless of whether we make new highs or lows. Market tops are long processes, and markets typically rally hard into rate pauses or rate cuts. The blowoff top of the tech bubble coincided with the 1998 rate cuts in lieu of emerging market weakness and dollar strength (sound familiar?).

With this in mind, we should continue to expect very large trending moves both upward and downward over the next 1 year or so, regardless of what volatility says right now. As a result, I think it's important to look at styles and sectors that tend to outperform in very late cycles, and only drop when the entire market sees liquidations. The big question is whether the September 2018 top was the blowoff top and 2016 was our version of 1998, or if we still have another leg up here.

China's easing has not done anything yet in the real economy, but it has propped up stock prices a bit. There is historically a lag here anyway. Not discounting the potential for this to affect the real chinese economy, but we would need to see sustained easing over the next few months, and then you would only later see the effects play out 3-4 quarters after easing starts.

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March 1, 2019 at 7:30 PM ×

So I've been mentioning the USDHKD peg for quite some time on here, almost to a point where you would think I'm wearing a tinfoil hat around it. On the surface, it probably seems ridiculous, but here we are again with the USDHKD peg getting hit, and we're starting to once again see similar moves in EM / reflationary barometers that we saw in april 2018.

In April 18 2018 after the USDHKD peg got hit, we saw gold get hammered, audusd drop, EM currencies start to fall, em overall start to fall, and other reflationary signals drop as the US market showed strength. Interestingly, we saw treasury yields fall both now and in April 2018 counter to the idea of reflationary signals getting hit. This all happened rather concurrently, suggesting this was no coincidence.

Do yourself a favor now, and look at what is happening in the market now that we just hit the peg once again after the big drawdown away from it that kicked off our q4 liquidations. Literally all the same things are starting to happen once again. Gold is getting hammered today. USDBRL and other USD emerging market currencies are getting hit hard. US market is showing lots of strength relative to emerging market equity markets. Still early in a potential move here, so no confirmation, but I'm almost laughing at the similarities we're seeing here.

Is this just a coincidence?

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March 1, 2019 at 9:10 PM ×

10 year yields are all that matter. 3% is the trigger. Enjoy the spring and summer. I’m off to buy my motorcycle.

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March 3, 2019 at 11:17 AM ×

This might be a good time for a new topic post looking at the Presidential cycle and its effect on markets. Without looking it up I think we are probably into the 'let's buy some votes' period and have moved out of the 'let's do the stuff that pisses people off' period.

A consequence would be to see Trump looking to settle markets down by getting some 'acceptable' resolution with China on trade; talking the dollar down which means keeping pressure on the Fed to resist rate increases, and I am sure our US based posters can come up with at least a couple more issues of similar ilk.
For sure the path to risk on/off is closely bound to what does the Fed do and right now I don't think we can look at that without thinking what does the 2020 impending election mean for what does Trump do next, because I am sure it is not his plan to go into those with the markets rattled.
Also got to tell you that robo picture checker sometimes tests my will to live !!

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March 5, 2019 at 2:55 AM ×



Amps just wants to clear up something with the punters around here. No, amps doesn't associate with the labor or liberal parties. Take a hike!

Amps only has a beer with the RBA.

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March 5, 2019 at 3:30 PM ×

Not much has been happening, although there are some interesting movements beneath the surface. We were short TLT last week, which worked (closed now), and short XHB, which hasn't really worked, but would probably work just as soon as we close the trade. For the most part we are sitting, with the conviction that March is often a good month to lose money in equities or fixed income after the initial exuberance of the new year wears off. This isn't a big deal for now but we note that the IWM is lagging, and small caps often lead the broad market lower. We also note that bonds didn't do a lot during last week's sell off. None of that is promising for risky assets.

There is renewed evidence of vol selling, and small specs are net short again, but it isn't extreme. We'd suggest a likely scenario involves a bit of vol and then more vol selling into the March 15 expiration. After the March op ex we may have some interesting conditions in place: "QT" scheduled for early April, very low vol with punters once again short gamma, buybacks on hold during the quiet period leading into the Q1 earnings reports beginning in early April. So the Ides of March seems like a reasonable time to consider punts from the short side. For now, we sit and await possible Brexit-related trades.

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Nico
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March 6, 2019 at 8:13 AM ×

North Korean rebuilding missile-test facilities
Huawei suing Canada and US
$300 billion of tax cuts in China

does not smell like a deal for the US, with China moving on

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Nico
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March 6, 2019 at 8:17 AM ×

on another note the long trade on EM equities seems to have rolled over last month

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March 6, 2019 at 11:14 AM ×

"does not smell like a deal for the US, with China moving on"

I don't think it implies anything at all for the trade deal. In scale it looks like a relatively small adjustment to offset lower growth projections. Nothing more than that other than a recognition that lower growth probably alters their target for domestic gdp to replace external gdp.
I'll say it again, I think of all the govts in the world the Chinese are best placed to move incrementally to a multi year adjusted soft landing that recognises that they are still the largest growing economy in the world ,but that growth will gradually reflect their move to a 'consumer' 'Western' like society rather than what has gone before.
In terms of pot I would not risk even 1% of it to bet against the Chinese govt hitting their long run targets. That's how hopeless I think it is to bet against 'the house' when the 'house' is as competent as it is.

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March 6, 2019 at 12:12 PM ×

@checkmte,

Concerning China: Yeah, they’re “best placed” because the CCP is committed to an utterly Orwellian political economy. What was it LBJ said? When you get to count the votes, elections are great. Something like that. If you believe that the last 20 years of economic “growth” were built on anything besides total political corruption, utter disregard for the individual and mountains of debt then I would love to see the evidence.

China is just the latest in a long line of totalitarian dictatorships that manipulate their economies to look shiny on the outside. The West collectively pisses itself or hurries to emulate these parvenu. China is so fragile in so many ways and they’re vision of the world should be vigorously resisted.

As to trading against it? I think you are totally correct. Like betting against the Nazis in 1934 or the Bolsheviks in 1920.

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March 6, 2019 at 12:29 PM ×

Note I do not make moralistic judgements about markets/economics as a part of deciding what financial position I want to take. Moreover, I would say that if you do decide to do so (Orwellian) then you run the danger of seeing the situation as you would wish it to be rather than what it is.
If at any time anyone would like a discussion that incorporates a moral view on these issues I am always happy to reason, but again, never ever when it comes to matters of finance.

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March 6, 2019 at 3:29 PM ×

People have been comparing the current events to the 2015-2016 slowdown that occurred. But they continually miss key data and information here.

In 2015-2016, China started stimulating in 2014. Not after the market had dropped... they had been stimulating for well over a year before their markets / economy started to turn upward, and that was only after everyone else got into the stimulus game and they themselves had launched a record wave of stimulus.

Fast forward to 2019, people think that 2 months of Chinese stimulus is going to magically turn things around instantaneously despite a worse macro backdrop, worse debt levels, worse geopolitical backdrop, less global stimulus going out currently, and less marginal efficacy of the stimulus in producing gdp growth. In a stimulus-driven world like we're in, the risk will always be that one day the stimulus will lack the ability to backstop markets. I don't know if that time is now, but that will 100% happen at some time or another. Now that we've flipped all the alg's to net long, gotten fund . managers to fully price in a trade deal, and gotten the asian monetary spigot back into constraint mode, we are not rallying upward anymore. I'm not surprised. The rest of the year is going to be rather interesting, especially from a big picture macro perspective.

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March 6, 2019 at 5:32 PM ×

Not sure thats right, the brakes were actively on in 2014 when they were cutting steel production and construction. Commods in china found a floor very end of 2015 and credit growth exploded in china at start of 16. Lift of for global markets lagged by about 3- 4 months.

They are not stimulating so much now, but the slow down has been less. They make up their data. The prices of their imports cannot be made up and from that perspective this was a mild slowdown. If China was aggressively slowing copper, coal, iron and steel would be on the floor.

Market is really dull right now

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March 6, 2019 at 7:39 PM ×

Big caps might be dull but look at Russell 2000 those days - Joe's small caps are leading the market down just like 2018

Regarding China they tried to fight shadow banking and gave up. I am with MOniker on this, it is too hard for China to change the fraudulent winning team amid a total ideological war between fascist Chinese autocrats and lenient pot-head Westerners busy reclassifying themselves in 25 new genders.

The west boasts a healthy $100bn porn industry while sex is taboo in China. Young women do not even use tampons. You can't expect a MOU to solve cultural differences in 90+ days. Houellebecq saw France becoming 100% service-based economy to Chinese tourists in 2030.

Fear of a yellow planet.

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March 6, 2019 at 8:02 PM ×

Wish I could find the data I was looking at that made me think they started stimulating in '14. I swear there was something haha. I would at least say that their stock market indices indicate that stimulus started in 2014. Those bubbles don't form from nothing after all.

With that said, they dropped the RRR rate and started injecting credit into the system in spring 2015. This is consistent with their m1 growth skyrocketing starting May 2015. But as you mentioned, the data is all murky at best.

So at the minimum, China started stimulating rather heavily in spring 2015, and we didn't really see a true turnaround until spring 2016 at best. Hence the 3 quarter minimum lag. But that's of course assuming that China is stimulating the entire time, and not just a 1 month injection.

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March 7, 2019 at 11:11 AM ×



She responded: “James if you’re trying to make me worry about my safety you’ll be forcing me to give this to my attorneys.” Packer answered: “Can’t wait tough girl… Get back in your box or let’s fight. Lying and blackmail are a bad start… tough lying girl.


So , little fella, does this involve both of you rolling down the street, or are you going to meet her at the "singo tough guys tattersalls club? "

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March 7, 2019 at 2:45 PM ×

That's quite the roll over on XLI this morning. Time for shorty.

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March 7, 2019 at 8:06 PM ×

We may have just seen another major central bank policy error. At some point the divergence theme is going to rear its ugly head again and we will get another dollar squeeze, with all the attendant damage.

EURUSD is plummeting toward the big figure of 1,1000. The problem for RoW is that now we have a strong dollar to deal with again and that's not going to make emerging markets or US exporters very happy, not to mention the commodity complex.

Technical weakness began in the small caps and is spreading as a variety of instruments dip below the 200 day. We still have a small short of XHB on, but with the jobs number ahead and the housing starts number tomorrow is going to be decision day on that trade. After that we are probably going to have sit tight as we await the pre-expiration wave of vol selling.

I tell you what though: Mr Shorty, he be knockin' on the do'.

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Nico
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March 7, 2019 at 9:00 PM ×

Draghi's mandate was 1000% exclusively to buy time for Italian banks so his homeland would not collapse. You'll get a northerner to replace him and expect no mercy and Italy to collapse, then.

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March 8, 2019 at 3:32 AM ×

LB, closed my XHB short today. Looking to put it back on around $39.

Amps, not trying to offend, but do your posts mean anything or are those just random thoughts?

Thanks

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March 8, 2019 at 4:16 AM ×



Anonymous,

Keep doing your job. Your good at it. As for the football manager...lol asshole!

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March 8, 2019 at 4:17 AM ×



Anonymous,

Any chance you can trick Trumpy into building that wall around that football manager?

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March 8, 2019 at 5:52 AM ×



Anonymous,

Let's give the macro-man blog three hip hip hoorays for saving amps ass.

hip hip hooray rick

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Anonymous
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March 8, 2019 at 1:49 PM ×

Well, that answered that question.

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zj
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March 8, 2019 at 1:50 PM ×

Agree with anon at 5:32pm.

Here is my rough recollection of events on Chinese economy:
2014/2015 cut and control on steel production and construction;
2015 stock crash and panic by the end of 2015 and the beginning of 2016;
stimulus in 2016 and 1st half 2017 on housing markets;
2nd half 2017 and 2018 deleverage, environmental regulation (close factories) and hit hard on shadow banking;
2nd half 2018 trade war;
by the end of 2018 and 2019 so far, stimulus again.

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Moniker
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March 8, 2019 at 2:23 PM ×

Question of the Day:

What stock becomes the End of Cycle camel-back-breaking straw?

2001 - Enron
2008 - Countrywide
2019 - ?

I thought DB last year, but TSLA seems to posses a bit more pyrotechnic glory.

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Nico
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March 8, 2019 at 6:08 PM ×

i had DB for so many years and yes... you could use Tesla now for a proxy of global world equities 'confidence game'

don't think Tesla can survive how big brands will catch up to e-vehicles. Here in the US you can't talk sense to TEsla owners though it is worse than Scientology and vegans combined.

dip buyers

now is the time to try the 2725 support... if you ever buy a fucking dip, tell the crowd now do not come and brag 'after' the market has bounced

i want to watch you get nuked all the way to 2448 i will be cruel this time, fuck it.

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Nico
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March 8, 2019 at 6:29 PM ×

PS: according to Nomura CTAs have started to liquidate their long positions under 2750 yesterday

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Skr
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March 8, 2019 at 7:04 PM ×

@Anon 3:32 AM
This is the best show in Town since last October - if it works don't fix it.
@Monkier, the question assumes 2019 is the year?
@Nico, Oo-Rah!

https://youtu.be/4NjjQcuXYoY

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Cbus20122
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March 8, 2019 at 9:00 PM ×

The bear case has started again this week, but we're not going to hit a trapdoor until after next week. Far too much vol dampening going on. With that said, it was impressive how the market could drop this week as it did in the fact of vol sellers and share buybacks.

As for what the company is to go bust to kick off the next recession as the "hallmark bust", I would once again caution people to realize it doesn't have to be within our borders. But central bank policies are extremely accomodative and preventative towards bankruptcies these days. I mean, if we're talking sheer size, Anbang, HNA Group, and Dalian Wanda have effectively been bailed out in one way or another by China, and all were similar in size or larger than Lehman. Just some food for thought there.

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JohnL
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March 10, 2019 at 3:42 AM ×

Tesla goes max Dilbert

https://electrek.co/2019/03/08/tesla-freezes-store-closure-layoffs-chaotic-sales-strategy/

(Ps I just hit "publish you comment" to post, don't tick "I'm not a bot" and no picture puzzle)

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Leftback
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March 11, 2019 at 3:24 PM ×

Here is the OpEx week vol selling bounce we have been talking about. Bears will get their day in the sun, just not this week.

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Jim
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March 11, 2019 at 5:45 PM ×

The stunning level of corporate debt:
“…between 2008 and 2018, global corporate bond issuance averaged $1.7 trillion per year compared to $864 billion in the years up to the financial crisis…the global outstanding corporate debt has reached $12.95 trillion…”

http://www.oecd.org/corporate/Corporate-Bond-Markets-in-a-Time-of-Unconventional-Monetary-Policy.pdf

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Nico
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March 12, 2019 at 3:01 PM ×

and how about the China side, Jim

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-03-12/china-scrambles-defuse-6-trillion-hidden-debt-bomb-titanic-credit-risk?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+zerohedge%2Ffeed+%28zero+hedge+-+on+a+long+enough+timeline%2C+the+survival+rate+for+everyone+drops+to+zero%29

this is so disconcerting

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BTFD
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March 12, 2019 at 8:20 PM ×

So the SP500 continues to push back up to ATHs. Nico continues to bleed as his losses mount.

I haven't posted in a while, content to just watch long positions push ever higher. Every central bank in the world has my back - buying US equity indexes is the biggest free lunch in financial markets. I'm confounded as to how people who claim to be institutional or ex-institutional can be so stupid as to fade this. A five year old has more sense!

Of course the media is full of bad news, but we all know this is just "fuel for the fire" to keep idiots positioned wrong. The SP500 will break above ATHs this year. In another 10 years you'll all be bitching about how this time, stocks will finally go down. lol.

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JBTFD
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March 13, 2019 at 3:54 PM ×

Nico, let me know when you need a bailout for your margin calls.

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Skr
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March 14, 2019 at 6:39 PM ×

We are now completely flat on the "batshit crazy" (long spooz, oil, dollar and US 10yr) that was initiated at the end of 2018 We have followed through from macro to micro; which is taking its toll mentally as we are not natural day traders. Happy hunting for those still involved.
Skr.

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Jim
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March 14, 2019 at 8:44 PM ×

Jeffrey Gundlach: " We're on a highway to hell "

https://twitter.com/jmanfreddi/status/1106293186748653569

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Anonymous
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March 15, 2019 at 7:17 AM ×


Got that right Skr...

I've been in single name land , and watching the day movements, there jumping back into growth stocks again lately. This viewpoint is seemingly another variable. This is my go. Time, day and pressure.

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Leftback
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March 15, 2019 at 3:51 PM ×

Well…. this week has played out more or less as we had discussed. Here we are at SPX 2820 and VIX < 13, more or less as we had predicted. We are probably close to the lows in vol now and close to the top for Spoos for the day.

After a long spell on the sidelines we started today a small short in IWM (stop around 156) and FXI (stop around 45). Those indices became very overbought around 2/25 and have lost momentum since. In addition, both have traded relatively weakly this week - we believe in shorting the laggards, not the leaders. Buybacks will be a limited factor in US equity markets as we enter the quiet period ahead of April's earnings report releases.

No position in bonds, but would be more inclined to sell strength just for the time being. We may be running out of soft data points and about to see a bounce in inflation expectations. Looking ahead, we have supply coming from QT operations in early April as well as the usual auctions. With the above in mind, we think short dollar trades are unwise.

Overall this period ahead of us seems like a really good opportunity for people to lose money in equities and/or bonds.

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Leftback
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March 15, 2019 at 3:52 PM ×

Well…. this week has played out more or less as we had discussed. Here we are at SPX 2820 and VIX < 13, more or less as we had predicted. We are probably close to the lows in vol now and close to the top for Spoos for the day.

After a long spell on the sidelines we started today a small short in IWM (stop around 156) and FXI (stop around 45). Those indices became very overbought around 2/25 and have lost momentum since. In addition, both have traded relatively weakly this week - we believe in shorting the laggards, not the leaders. Buybacks will be a limited factor in US equity markets as we enter the quiet period ahead of April's earnings report releases.

No position in bonds, but would be more inclined to sell strength just for the time being. We may be running out of soft data points and about to see a bounce in inflation expectations. Looking ahead, we have supply coming from QT operations in early April as well as the usual auctions. With the above in mind, we think short dollar trades are unwise.

Overall this period ahead of us seems like a really good opportunity for people to lose money in equities and/or bonds.

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Leftback
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March 15, 2019 at 3:53 PM ×

Sorry for duplicate; connectivity issues!

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spu
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March 15, 2019 at 10:33 PM ×

*** Eulogy for Nico. ***

Friends, we regret to inform you that the retail chump, known here as Nico, was margin-called today during an opex spike. A long-time degenerate gambler, Nico lost all his money fighting the Fed, until his FCM finally closed him out this afternoon. His crazy antics & conspiracy theories were much loved by readers on MM, and we share a sadness that his departure leaves no one left to ridicule. Our thoughts & best wishes go to his wife & her new (wealthier) husband.

RIP Nico.

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JBTFD
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March 18, 2019 at 9:21 AM ×

Looks like everyone here has lost money & stopped posting. lol. BTFD 1 -Macro 0.

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Leftback
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March 18, 2019 at 2:15 PM ×

Interesting coincident observation of contrarian indicators:

1) Reappearance of aggressively bear-baiting 12 y-o HFMs.
2) Spoos and VIX rising together at the open - an indicator of large scale call buying.
3) Fear and Greed index is 67.

Now almost everyone is really in on the long side. The question is: does Jay Powell have any candy for them?

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Moniker
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March 18, 2019 at 2:19 PM ×

@BTFD, JBTFD, spu and various Anonymi,

Please provide: Entry/exit prices, instrument(s) used, leverage applied and last 3 years p/l.

Thanks so much...

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Nico
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March 18, 2019 at 2:37 PM ×

spu

your Zoolander eugoogly is almost funny but do not mention my wife ever again - bullying is ok by your standards, but the wife is off limit

unlike you we are real persons. get a grip.

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Anonymous
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March 18, 2019 at 8:57 PM ×


Nico, you don't have to worry about it. They take care of themselves. If this guy isn't the biggest jonah in hollywood , who is.

https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/warner-bros-chairman-and-ceo-kevin-tsujihara-will-step-down-amid-sexual-misconduct-investigation?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A%20foxnews%2FFOX411Blog%20%28Internal%20-%20Entertainment%20-%20Fox%20411%20Blog%29


Ps...you'll never be able to repay me.

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JBTFD
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March 18, 2019 at 10:21 PM ×

@Moniker

I'm happy to provide the same trade statements as Nico & everyone else here: i.e. none.

C'mon we all know you guys here are full of sh*t. Macro trading wannabes who consistently under-perform the benchmark every year. You do provide comedy value though - keep it up.

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Eddie
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March 19, 2019 at 9:51 AM ×

Since we now have official confirmation that our bovine friends are adding only noise with no signal it would be great if one of the admins could clean up their excretions.

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Leftback
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March 19, 2019 at 9:26 PM ×

Watching market action for the last 4-5 days in the small caps. We may be seeing distribution days here, mainly in the broader market for now, with early buying (futures traders and retail) fading after 10am and giving way to selling later in the day.

It's interesting to watch small caps trade sideways as they tend to lead the large cap indices (they did this last year in the September downturn, and then again in the late December bounce). Sideways trading often occurs as market momentum wanes and we start to see the emergence of negative divergences, even as the spoos continue to rise.

Crowded trades abound, including all manner of fixed income, and vol selling is back, ahead of tomorrow's FOMC meeting. This suggests that everyone already "knows" what the Fed is going to do, or more specifically not do in 2019-2020. We're not so sure that all FOMC members are on the page that the market currently would like them to be on.

Just FYI, we are short FXI. The largest stock in the FXI and EEM is Tencent, which just reported earnings and is currently fulfilling an after-hours appointment behind the woodshed. Caution. Earnings may be smaller than they appear.

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Anonymous
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March 19, 2019 at 9:46 PM ×

Tencent reports on Thursday, you are referring to a tiddler called tencent music u spanner

Obviously tencent and spz deserve a good woodshedding as they float on crazy TINA fumes, whether they do just yet isn’t clear

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TraderJim
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March 20, 2019 at 12:39 PM ×


I wonder are we in the last leg of the bull market, or already in a rolling bear, with the recent rise a bear market rally ?

If we are in the last leg of the bull, I would expect a zip-zag continued rally cumulating in some euphoric behaviour, then a rolling top and subsequent bear. These ‘last legs’ can deliver substantial gains but timing is crucial on that dimly lit exit door in the corner.

If we are in a bear market rally, then expect a retest of the December low and then a push lower, as anyone who bought the Dec dip, panics and sells at any price. Selling begets selling.

Any fact points to steer the course?

The yield curve is flat as a pancake right now from 1yr through 7yr. Even slightly inverted on 1yr to 2/3/5. So bonds say Fed is stuck here, no growth but not signalling a recession and imminent rate cuts yet. A weird no mans land.

The four week moving average of US jobless claims has ticked up since a low in September. To early to say it’s leading up, but visually a concern on the chart.

The Feb, well, QE infinity probably on the shelf ready to go. China, relaxed credit, again. I have no doubt these two big bad boys will roll out their usual programmes if required, but eventually they will be pushing on a string. Marginal credit in China can end up in monolithic construction and yes the Fed will soak up the US government deficit. I do wonder the reaction of the bond market when it finally decides those treasuries the Fed buys are effectively written off as they can never be recycled back into the market.

There is still cash on the sidelines, and a wall of worry to climb, no all-in la-la the only way is up euphoria yet as a market top signal.

From a bottom-up perspective I have to pay the following pe ratios to buy what I personally deem to be good companies: V. 29.1 AAPL 16.3 JPM 11.0 MSFT 26.6 hardly a representation of SPX I know but the point being big tech and growth is too expensive to sensibly buy right now.

On the chart interesting to see SPX sneak over the 2815 level it tested three times last year in Oct, Nov and Dec so chartists likely see this price point as crunch time.

So it’s not clear (of course!). Greatly appreciate thoughts.

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Leftback
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March 20, 2019 at 4:02 PM ×

Lol. Thanks for the correction, Anon. Spanner is fair enough for that one. F*cking john-John Chinese companies with the same names!!!

W.r.t. the scenarios outlined above, that’s a perfect description of where we are. We want to add a third alternative.

Path A says the recession and bear market are coming but somehow the Fed is able to promote the Goldilocks illusion one more time to elicit another blowoff top. Proponents of A are reluctant to buy bonds just yet.

Path B says the bear market began last year, recession will arrive by the end of the year. According to this model, the bounce we have seen since last December was effectively an Exit rally engineered so that those in the know can get out. MoSt of the bear markets of recent decades have featured an Exit rally. According to this model, you would be in USTs already.

Path C. We are torn between A and B. Not able to believe that the market can make a new blowoff top, yet not ready to commit to a full-on fixed income long supported by an easing Fed just yet. Cautiously bearish everything except USD would be the positioning for this.

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Leftback
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March 20, 2019 at 4:18 PM ×

I should also add that the noises coming out of the semiconductor and transport sectors are not encouraging, especially for China. We do not subscribe to the happy-crappy predictions for the trade talks, and further tariff chatter would probably tip the global economy over the brink and into recession.

The issue as always is the timing. If the recession is coming in late 2019, then typically the equity markets will signal this 6 to 9 months ahead of time, which suggests that Q2 may be a rough ride. If recession is 2020, then the market may have a few more twists and turns in it before the final downturn.

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Leftback
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March 20, 2019 at 5:59 PM ×

Looks like our friends the 12y-o HFMs are buying the dip here in the last hour or so before FOMC, in line with their investing manifesto of JBTFD. They may well be correct in anticipating doves flying out of Powell's ass, in which case they will all be along to tell us about it. If they are wrong, we will not hear from them for some time.

Now we can settle in for the action! Expect the usual seismographic stop-hunt for 15 minutes or so before market direction can be discerned.

The FOMC loons are especially fascinating. Esther George, Loretta Mester, what goes on in their minds?

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Leftback
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March 20, 2019 at 6:07 PM ×

Doves out the wazoo…. incredible how bipolar this group has been over the last six months.

As of now, the immediate reaction is the equity market likes it. But let's wait and see how the day ends, after all, the FOMC just effectively admitted that the economic outlook is very weak. In other words, the bond market has it right, not stocks.

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Leftback
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March 20, 2019 at 6:13 PM ×

Curve steepener, once again. The 30y is agnostic, absolutely stuck to 3.00%, while the 2y dumped 5bps. The banks are lagging today and barely mustered a bounce on this news.

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Cbus20122
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March 20, 2019 at 6:18 PM ×

And that's why treasuries have been the easiest trade for the last 3 months....

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Leftback
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March 20, 2019 at 6:25 PM ×

For those who haven't fully digested the implications of this statement, think about this: by going FULL DOVE, the FOMC has now taken the "bad news is good news" scenario OFF THE TABLE for the rest of 2019. Not to say that there will not be any good economic news ahead, but the unambiguous implication is that from now on, BAD NEWS IS BAD. There are no more goodies, not unless things are truly truly going to hell in a hand basket.

If you don't believe me, look at JPM - now trading at the lows of the day.

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Cbus20122
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March 20, 2019 at 6:29 PM ×

FWIW, the moves today are the same thing we've seen at the tops of all cycles when the fed announces an end to cuts. Dollar down, energy up, financials down, gold up, treasuries up, em gets a bid. I don't expect all these to last, but they're all quintessential 9th inning plays.

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Leftback
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March 20, 2019 at 6:31 PM ×

@Cbus: Good point, and well played.

WTI just hit $60, Brent closing in on $70. Although we will not see $125/bbl again, a run up to $75-80 would probably be more than this economy can handle. To pursue this thought, if we see a substantial drop in the USD during Q2 we might actually be setting up for another 2008-style EM rally and commodity spike, and perhaps a sharp spike higher in oil that would be sufficient to drive the US consumer-led economy into recession.

OK, let's listen to Uncle Jay….

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Cbus20122
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March 20, 2019 at 6:56 PM ×

Personally, I don't think that we'll see a 2008 style rally in commodities, at least not in size. Also I tend to think any rally won't last all that long. We may see some gains here, but I'm not counting on stuff lasting. 2008's huge spike was largely based on enormous carry trades shorting the dollar (in the Eurodollar market). Those don't exist anymore due to what happened largely in 2008, but also because the biggest dollar short (china) subsequently has the most outstanding dollar obligations coming due. Also, rate and growth differentials are reversed when comparing 2008 to 2019.

In a lot of ways, I actually think the dollar may start to rise fairly soon here as the negative dollar catalysts are now all out of the way completely. Everything from here on aside from deficits are largely going to be dollar positive until the fed starts to cut, and a fed cut always means the market is about to liquidate, which is dollar positive due to liquidity issues.

I got out of my dollar long positions a few weeks back, but I'll be waiting for an opportunity to get back in when it looks attractive.

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TraderJim
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March 20, 2019 at 7:26 PM ×


So….

Mumbled answer to the outlook question from the Washington post - read Fed is worried

Next question, fidgeted and said ‘Europe and China is a headwind’

On tariffs - ‘too small to matter but impacts business sentiment’

Wells Fargo? Who cares?

Bloomberg question on balance of risks, 50% chance of a rate cut by Jan - Powell says data not clear, so don’t know. Fair answer. Bu then he says “the limited data we see does show a slow down”

Growth - textbook answer about productivity and labour force participation

Tax cuts - textbook answer

Dot plot rate cuts - dove again

Slow down temporary ? ‘It was a surprise!’

1998 back to the future rising asset value bubble - Fed don’t see any! (not a mention of corporate debt)

More tools needed? - ‘No.’

National debt bomb - avoidant answer

Brexit - avoidant answer. But did give a balance sheet figure.

Inflation - 2% ‘not high enough, go back to sleep’

Conditions for rate cut / hike - ‘need hard data son’

Wage tightening - ’nothing to see here’

Consumer debt bomb - ’I don’t care’

Brexit - ‘our banks can handle it’

Fiscal policy - ‘son I don’t write the deficit’

Securities maturity lengthening - bit of twitching here about flattening the yield curve

Balance sheet when will it grow again - ‘we don’t know’

The market listens to you closely - ‘no kidding’


Well, I guess that puts the brakes on a 2019 recession. Over to the bond market then.

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Leftback
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March 20, 2019 at 8:59 PM ×

Price is News Department here, with the observation that despite what the 12yo HFMs were doing today ("JBTFD"), there was little doubt what that the Smart Money index (3-4pm trading) was doing: Selling Spoos, Small Caps, Banks, Semis and China.

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Moniker
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March 20, 2019 at 9:03 PM ×

Damn it feels good to be a gangster...

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Cbus20122
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March 21, 2019 at 1:37 PM ×

So another even bigger risk was just created by the fed stopping their rate hikes. That being inversion of the 10y and 3month yield curve. Historically, this spread has inverted right after the fed announces they will stop raising rates, and the huge compression yesterday and today signal that this is likely going to continue to be true.

It highlights how much of a catch 22 the fed is in, and why "late cycle" is always a choice between two impossible paths. The fed always gets dumped on for making mistakes, but not many people consider the fact that during these late cycle environments, they would be be screwed regardless of which path they take on policy. For example: in 2007, the fed's terminal rate hike led to an explosion in commodity prices and the inversion of the yield curves. This caused a big spike in inflation at a time where everyone was already being squeezed from a credit perspective. At the same point, nobody would have said at that time that they should have kept raising rates.

Going back to the 10y-3m yield curve, this is a big deal because once it inverts, I believe most banks have rules that literally turn off the credit spigots. This inversion is the most important one because when it inverts, financial tightening will commence heavily.

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12yo HFM
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March 21, 2019 at 3:20 PM ×

@Leftback, how are you and the "smart money" doing with all your short positions that got stopped out on either: a) the FOMC release or b) today's US cash open?

Love & kisses
12yoHFM's everywhere xoxo

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Anonymous
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March 21, 2019 at 6:55 PM ×


You listen here, You 13 Year old hedge fund manager. I've had a gut full of your attitude around this place. I'll have you know that Lefty and the crew only gives out the alpha tips to those that shout out at the local cafe when we all didn't have a pot to piss in and life was never better when all you had to do in life is get up each morning and do your favorite thing for free it had to be...and you were only a phone call away from being fed in emergencies.

So from me to you ...((13)) year old hedge fund manager...you and ((all)) the rest of ((YOUS)) can go fuck yourselves...because just like the old days...I'm doing my disappearing act from the alpha tipping scene , and going walkabout until you fuckers out of the picture.

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JBTFD
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March 21, 2019 at 7:28 PM ×

@12yo HFM - ROFL!!!

@Amps - You mean we won't be subjected to your inane drivel? Superb!

@Nico/@LB and all the "macro" shorts - Enjoy your margin calls :)

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Cbus20122
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March 21, 2019 at 8:38 PM ×

Sentiment is shifting decidedly more bullish now. We're getting more and more people who were once bears now talking about a blowoff top. The rally has been absolutely ridiculous, and is perhaps one of the more disconnected from economic reality i've ever seen, but that's what you get when everyone has stockholm syndrome over 10 years of central bank puts.

I had some longs I bought after the recent dip, and I just sold quite a few of those off today, took some profits on a few treasury calls, added new dollar bull calls. Still holding a few energy plays and a few other stocks that fit within sectors that do well in late-cycle environments. Betting against financials & transports seems like easiest plays right now - first to move indexes in these types of situations tend to also go down the most in the event of a bigger move. Also, the 9th inning playbook puts these sectors as the top shorts anyway, which is being confirmed by what's going on. Now that "blowoff top" is becoming consensus, short interest is getting startlingly low after the recent move across all indexes, I think it'll lend itself more into the downside camp. Bear capitulation is a nice contrarian signal in my opinion.

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Moniker
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March 21, 2019 at 10:22 PM ×

Let us re-visit predictions for 2019:

2019 predictions:

-SPX bottoms between 1500-1600 (very wrong to date, may have the push this to 1H 2020)
-DB “fails” and merges (Any second now)
-EURUSD parity (dead money so far, still love it)
-Britain crashes out 3/29 (who the f*ck knows now, but 3/29 approacheth on winged death)
-Oil bottoms below $30 (I’ve been wrong wrong wrong)
-Spreads over TSYs blow out to 1000bps+ (wrong, wrong, wrong...cmon Moody’s you whore!)
-Rate hikes cease, QT continues (check and sorta-check....actions not words)
-Trump impeached by House, Senate can’t convict, refuses to resign (wait for it, wait for it...)

S-T USTs, Commodities, Cash my favs

Equities: either blow-off BTFD fuckstick central...OR...wicked bear rally. Either way I get faceripped or flattened. Pass.

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cs
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March 22, 2019 at 2:26 AM ×

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-03-21/powell-aims-to-avoid-japan-deflation-trap-with-dovish-fed-tilt?utm_content=economics&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=socialflow-organic&cmpid%3D=socialflow-twitter-economics&utm_medium=social

Nobody mentioning about oncoming deflationary forces.

Fed behind the curve, recognized it in Dec, did complete U-turn since then, thereby driving forces now to distribute at better levels to well-conditioned dipsters while future buybacks will be less.

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Skr
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March 22, 2019 at 11:55 AM ×

@cs, "While wage increases are now running “at healthier and higher levels,’’ that has not led companies to raise prices at a faster clip in response, he said."

What a crock of bs! Let's take AAPL for instant - the largest company by market value in the world,they raise prices at any given chance. You mean to say that every other company is watching this successful model and decided not to follow it.
The credibility issue with the Fed, is that they can't measure inflation (always has been). Make no mistake inflation has already overshot the mark and then some.

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Leftback
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March 22, 2019 at 12:36 PM ×

@12y-o HFM: Still short FXI and IWM, thanks. We'll talk in two weeks.

Yesterday was perhaps the last really good escape rally. It was also, in a big way, about ensuring a profitable launch of the Levi's IPO for the Private Equity gang. This morning's futures suggest we are going to see lower lows for FXI. The rest will follow. Buybacks are declining and month-end rebalancing will begin to push the flows out of equities into bonds. The start of Q2 is not going to stoke US equities significantly. Things have changed.

What changed this week is that the Fed took itself off the playing field. This will become apparent in the next couple of months, and once this sinks in with the dip buying crowd this will have a big impact on sentiment. @Cbus makes the point above that the 3m-10y spread is important and inversion is not simply an arcane curiosity, but an immediate alarm bell.

From now on, as I stated on Wednesday, bad data - like this morning's news out of Germany - will now be unequivocally bad, because the Fed is out of the game, for the time being at least. Weak economic data will no longer be the mother's milk of this market flowing from Jay Powell's breast. Weak data will mean a weaker economy and weaker earnings. This earnings recession is going to begin showing up in HY and small caps as early as next month. Lower rates will mitigate the effects of a credit crunch to some degree, but we will see spreads begin to widen quite soon, and then signs of distress will start to appear in other indices of economic activity (employment, housing) by mid-summer. A rate cut in Q3-Q4 would be the final sign that the Fed has capitulated and that a recession is then imminent.

Looking for IWM 150 or so, as early as next week, and then lower lows in early April. Note that JPY is catching a bid, now at its strongest since Feb 10th; you can expect to see a lot more of that ahead. For those who remember those lumpy overnight 2¥ moves in USDJPY and all the associated unwinding, it's time for a spot of nostalgia.

Btw, @IPA, I believe LB wins the XHB bounce into March expiration bet??? They will be total dogshit from now on, though.

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Leftback
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March 22, 2019 at 2:08 PM ×

... and just like magic, the 3m-10y inversion signal has been triggered. The prediction would be that an official recession will be declared to have begun by mid-January 2020, although my guess is it will probably be sooner.

We can expect the propaganda machine to be cranked up into overdrive to try to prop up the markets now. The XLF is being absolutely battered today. XHB, IWM, transports have been soft for a month.

TLT is going parabolic as die-hard bond shorts receive another unexpected visit from the proctologist. If the yen breaks 110, today has the potential to get pretty ugly.

enjoy your longs @12yo !!

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Cbus20122
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March 22, 2019 at 3:21 PM ×

Can everyone in here repeat after me: "currencies are relative"

Most cycles, when the fed cuts or stops hiking, you get a dollar selloff. The problem in the current setup as I've been mentioning for quite some time is that no matter how negative things get in the USA, things have been more negative abroad. This is a huge problem because it increases strains on the global financial system. The global financial system needs a cheap dollar because dollars = funding and liquidity.

Feedback loops are fun.

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Leftback
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March 22, 2019 at 3:48 PM ×

LB is going to keep this short, because we are classy here at MM:

@JBTFD: "smirk"

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Nico
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March 22, 2019 at 4:23 PM ×

Yesterday engulfing candle fried every bear left (minus one) and invited suckers' money in by switching long term equity models to BUY. Euphoria, much

Only to be followed by a gap down, and then that. In terms of maxpain and max mindfuck, this could be the signature top of the most vicious bear market rally that ever was

expect fireworks on Monday as there is a lot to process over the week end (and the conclusion ain't pretty)

2810 might contain the selling today but market would open under Monday, the reverse image of January 7th clearance of 2520s

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Moniker
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March 22, 2019 at 5:26 PM ×

@JBTFD, BTFD et alia (yes, that’s the neuter case for the unwashed),

Keep that P/L handy (you’re on notice) and keep doing the Lord’s work.

Have just a super inverted weekend and get ready for QE4, or as I like to call it, “The first cut is the deepest.”

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Anonymous
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March 22, 2019 at 6:25 PM ×

Good calls LB, your "bad news is bad news" prediction has proven spot on in almost no time.

Big moves on the data, and we are nowhere near panic levels. However I am wary of these recession calls, or at least uncertain of an underlying cause. The slow down has been much deeper than expected but has primarily been trade related (china) coupled with auto weakness, services and domestic economies have remained firm and kept aggregates up. If the trade deal materialises and tariffs go, then the trade problem could go away.

Still from a data perspective bears seem to be on a roll, with something new popping up to carry thesis every little while. The EZ weakness last year started in q2 18 with the BTP sell off fears but, when that was at least temporarily resolved in a positive way, trade and german autos stepped in to continue knee capping the EZ.

Is curve inversion that meaningful when so much of the global stock of bonds are owned by central banks? It seems far less meaningful than historically when markets had a healthy fear of inflation and a lot of curve premia.

I see stronger EMs, a weaker dollar, and a recovering Europe as a base case, but right now not with much conviction.

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Skr
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March 22, 2019 at 8:52 PM ×

Roll up, roll up, come and see the greatest show in Town... Its got Gangsta, its got Fun, its got Magic, its got Maxpain, its got aborigines, its got kids, its got Spanners.. Hey waitta minute.. But best of all its got Class...

https://youtu.be/c2_xWTSyCuU

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JBTFD
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March 22, 2019 at 8:54 PM ×

@LB - Credit where it's due: it's commendable that you managed to call 1 day out of 365 correctly. As 12yo HFM mentioned, unfortunately Thursday's moves stopped you out of your shorts. Today's fall just puts me back to where I was yesterday - not quite the "Apocalypse Now" picture you're portraying... Meanwhile the SP500 is still up +12% YTD - yes, quite. Better luck next time eh?

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Anon
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March 22, 2019 at 9:50 PM ×

For people commenting here and actually adding views/discussion, just don't take the troll bait. You all should know better than to respond to someone who is just intentionally baiting people here.

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Moniker
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March 22, 2019 at 11:00 PM ×

@JBTFD (and with policies to 9:50 Anon),

P/L dipshit or fuck off forever you fucking troll shitbird fuck. Btw, I’m not angry... just turnabout is fair play. You’re like the junior fuckstick new guys who had the desk “figured out” from 2005-2008. Then...not so much. P/L genius...let’s see it. Instruments, entry/exit, last three years or fuck off and use your lunch breaks to strap the knee pads on and hit the bus station first...

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